David Tua vs George Foreman

Still, too much talk about Foreman destroying Frazier in both of his fights which is the wrong platform when comparing Tua vs Foreman or any other swarmer vs Foreman.

First of all I would like to reiterate that Foreman NEVER beat the best Frazier and I'd bet on the Frazier from 1967 - 1970 to do significantly better than the fighter who showed up in Jamaica 1973. In fact, replace Ali in the FOTC with George Foreman and Frazier probably beats him by KO well inside the 15 round distance.

I think George could beat Tua and probably stops him before the middle rounds but Tua would definitely provide a stern test for George if his weight is in check. If George is allowed to push, shove, grab Tua's shoulders and hold and hit underneath like Mercante allowed him to do against Frazier, the fight becomes easier for George.

This fight could be a multiple knockdown affair like George's war against Ron Lyle. Ultimately I think George has more than enough power to put Tua on the canvas and keep him there.

 

Tua is not at this level, not at all... Foreman would win this one I have no doubts at all.

Tua is joining the set of internet legends with Ikeabuchi.

The weight of evidence is overwhelming IMO.

 

I could well argue that Foreman was slightly past his best in his second fight with Frazier,though Frazier was pretty shot in that fight TBH.
I have difficulty seeing Frazier (67-70) being a favourite against Foreman (72-73). The combination of the jab ,all the pushing and turning, and the right uppercut still makes me think Frazier-or for that matter Tua-would have difficulty coming in.I don't fancy their chances on the outside either.

 

Tua is similar to Frazier, but not quite the boxer, and without the intensity. But he had a better chin, possibly a tighter defense but less movement. People mention the Lyle fight but Tua doesn't have the size or boxing skill of Lyle, hes a bob and weave pressure fighting hooker like Frazier

I see it going the same way as the Frazier fight but Tua lasts a little longer, perhaps up to the 5-7, but will take a murderous beating. Foreman lands first every time, with his long reach, if Tua gets inside he gets smashed by uppercuts. Tua will get backed up and this completely takes away his power.

Now some will say Lennox couldn't stop Tua but Tua went into a shell and Lennox didnt go for the kill, Foreman goes for the kill and kills successfully

 

What do you mean "Internet legends?"

Tua's resume is thin, fair enough. But exactly how proven is Foreman is in slugfests? Lyle was a life and death struggle, with a far inferior puncher. Frazier barely landed anything and was a not a big one-punch hitter nor a fast starter. And that's pretty much it. Maybe Foreman was a TV legend?

 

David Tua = Urban Legend

 

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Prime Tuaman was very good, but Foreman's overall skill is overlooked here. He was more than just a completely crude slugger, the man had a shotgun like jab. Tua will be walking into George here just like Smokin Joe and despite having a granite chin would be beat down.

Tua has a much better chance of beating Frazier here than Foreman.

 

Oh my GOD!

Tua lost bad to the only elite fighter he ever faced.

Foreman would own him

 

Tua had all these wonderful attributes but he never won a thing despite several opportunities to do so. People need to look at actual accomplishments once in awhile.

 

I rate Tua highly and give him shots against Marciano and Frazier but Foreman is all wrong for him

Foreman actually did a nice Ali impression in some of his early fights, many fighters have a vaster array of talents than given credit for

 

foreman would knock him out. tua has a live chance. tua chin would get dented if foreman can hit him clean.

 

Yeah, even a prime Tua was losing to a young Maskaev before finishing him.

 

I personally would pick Foreman to win as well. I just think his power is in a slightly different league than Tua's and he'd take him out somewhere along the way. Look how Tua fought when he felt Lewis' power, he basically went into a shell to prevent taking anymore flush shots.

 

true, tua dosent get hit on the chin as much as people think. feeling foreman power will either make him close up or he get koed brutally.

 

Arka, respect to you for you post. I could argue that Foreman was always at his very best against Joe Frazier, especially in the second fight. The main reason is that Frazier is the only fighter that George Foreman in his book and in many interviews said that he was scared of. He didn't think he could beat him the first time and he didn't consider him a "scenic rest stop" the second time around. Foreman looked much more careful in 1976 against Frazier, knowing that he'd be ready for the uppercuts that KO'd him in 1973.

I still believe Frazier would have made a much better showing against Foreman in 1973 if he was at or near his prime weight and came into the fight with the same intensity he showed Ali. In fact, some say this is testament to Ali's greatness because of the punishment he inflicted on Frazier in losing the FOTC. In the second fight against Foreman, he boxed and moved practically shot while wearing contact lenses. He fought George Chuvalo in almost the same manner, moving and boxing, throwing his hook with jabs and straight rights.