David Tua vs. Jimmy Young

True. He was also a gentleman, as his nickname indicates.

 

To me Jimmy Young is the perfect example of slickness and defense gone wrong. You have to bring the fight to win. You have to take risks to gain in the ring. If you fight negatively all the time, it will hurt your effectiveness as a fighter. Boxing is a martial art, and excessive spoiling directly interferes with it's legitimacy as a method of self defense.

 

He admitted that Foreman hurt him so that was pretty honest as most fighters would've lied about that. The Foreman of that night would've finished most men(including Frazier, excluding Ali) but it's a credit to Young that he survived and got the win he rightfully deserved.

 

He fought beautifully against Foreman & in the Lyle rematch so he wasn't always too negative. His strategy to make Ali lead was pretty smart though it did him no favors to show Ali the respect that he did.

 

Well.... "If you don't punch him a lot....He won't punch you a lot" applies pretty strongly here don't it?

 

Okay, okay you have a point there.

 

well if an akward byrd beats tua.......... then a really really akward jimmy young beats tua on points.:smoke

 

Well, I could change the pace and start a Butterbean thread, if you like..

 

Tua does not have the footwork to put himself in the only range possible to land his lefthook against this guy's defense. He plods. A world champion plodder is going to have an impossible time with a Jimmy Young. And forget about the Tua right hand leads against this guy either, he'll just fall in and get peppered. They'll be launched from about 4 or 5 feet away.

The other bad habit Tua has in the second half of his fights is how badly he reacts to feints. Man, he falls for feints and with his sturdy chin you think he wouldn't. Now he's in with a master feinter much better than Byrd who feinted him all over the place.I think Jimmy lands that sneaky right hand of his and has this opponent falling for feints on the outside. This is where the schooling comes into play and it would start by the 4th round or earlier. Mismatch.

 

Jimmy pitches a shutout,I'd be surprised if Tua wins more than a couple of rounds.

 

Which is why he lost to Shavers twice ? and has so0 many other decision losses ? and McCall is the one called a journeyman . McCall stopped a concensus top 15 all time HW to gain a belt , Young never got it an a weaker era. Byrd had it twice in the strongest era and his stoppage over Vitali Klitschko probably had no fluke in it , he just made Vitali punch his own shoulder out . And Byrd's only ease with Tua was in staying upright till the end of the fight , Young was no Byrd and a reasonable person can't deduce from one fight lasting the distance that a rematch would have gone the same way , it's not that Byrd put or could put Tua in any form of hurt or danger , and Young was not better than Byrd in any means .

 

First of all, Young lost to Shavers by tko in his

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...a little like sacrificing a potetntial prospect as a lamb to a lion, wouldn't you think?
Secondly, Young didn't lose the rematch...it was a draw.
Third, Young was a work in progress at the time and when he matured into the version that got screwed against Ali, easily beat Foreman and Lyle, and and again screwed vs Norton, ...well, that version of Young would have shut out Shavers, IMO..it's a shame it never happened..
Young was no Byrd? Right, he wasn't...he was far superior. Prime Foreman would have killed Byrd on his best day.

 

I absolutely detest Young's style. Ruiz like knockout for Tua.

The ammount of crying he did in the Foreman fight every time Foreman even touched him was a disgrace.

 

:rofl

 

I voted for Young by dec, but 3 voted for him by KO. Jokers all of them, I hope.