David Tua vs Joe Frazier

Where did I ever claim he KO'd them with one-punch? Who's blind here? My claim was about comparison of knockout reels of two fighters. Tua's is more impressive by far to me.

 

Believe it or not. A stone weighing several ounces will hit you harder and hurt more than a 10-pound bag of hay that will knock you off your feet.

 

Who's comparing punching power based on singular wins? Not me.
My original post that started all this:

Do I compare punching power here? No. There wasn't any mention of punching power in my post. Then somebody answered with a claim that is not backed up by facts that a young Foreman was a much faster starter, clearly implying (based on the post they were replying to) that he could do it as quickly as Tua, and you joined that claim. Neither of you were able to come up with proof that he was able to do such thing during any point of his career, against any opponent, and never admitted being wrong *based on facts*.

 

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david tua career
Darroll wilson

David izon

Jeff Lally

Talmadge griffis

Nate tubbs

Edward guitierrez

Cisse salif

Russell chasteen

Garing lane 20-27-2

Cleveland woods 14-14

Bellocchi 7-2-0
Mauricio Villegas 22-10-0



Sean Hart 11-3-2

Dan Murphy



Bruce Bellocchi 7-1-0



Cecil Coffee


Everton Davis 9-3-0

Lester Jackson 5-2-1
Calvin Jones 16-8-0

Bill Corrigan 7-4-1
Mike Acey 13-8-1

Krishna Wainwrigh 1-3-1

Rick Honeycutt 4-9-2
Larry Davis 7-9-0

Bruce Johnson 9-23-1

Willie Washington 1-4-0

Alfredo Nevarez 0-2-0

Howard Kelly 7-9-0

Lazaro Almanza 0-2-0

Lorenzo Poole 0-1-0


Ron Humes 5-5-0

funny that you got even the balls to say that foreman stopped cans , when tua did beat the biggest bunch of bums ever

 

You want me to post a list of 70 unranked opponents of Foreman that'll be more than twice longer than what you posted? What's the point?

 

finally someone sees Tua like i do, for the bum feeder that he was.

a whole host of nobodies

 

as i said before, accept my challenge and well do a break down of top 10 wins for either man

 

The point of listing top 10 wins being what?

 

ask yourself that question, was it not you who was going to post the '70 bums out of 80 fights' that foreman had?
so i said compare the top teb

the reason you CANNOT EVER compare Tuas top 10 kos to anyone is because......he doesn't have a top 10:hi:

 

the point is that foreman was a much more proved puncher than tua because he stopped much better and harder men than tua did, even in his second carreer foreman stopped guys like bert cooper, gerry cooney, qawi, coetzer,adilson rogriguez, A PEAK michael moorer. in his first career stopped the ranked contender hard ron lyle, the hall of famer ken norton in his peak, the all time great undefeated joe frazier, he stopped the iron chin man george chuvalo, stopped goyo peralta who had the incredible record of 82-6, he stopped frazier again. BY THE WAY FOREMAN 90 STOPPED KEN LAKUSTA IN 3 ROUNDS , AND A YOUNG PRIME TUA 15-0 STOPPED LAKUSTA IN THE END OF HIS CAREER IN 4 ROUNDS..:hi:

 

Azzer85
How will listing top 10 wins cancel out that Foreman fought dozens and dozens of tomato cans and scored only one KO win in less than 1 minute of fighting and 2 more KO's in less than 2 minutes of fighting, that's in 81 fights?

heavy_hands
What is "much more proved puncher"? What does that term mean?

 

AVOIDING TO ANSWER WHEN YOU HAVE NOT ANSWER :hi:

BTW( MORE PROVED PUNCHER: HE STOPPED BETTER MEN THAN TUA DID.) END OF THE HISTORY.
ALL YOU CAN DO IS REPEATING ONCE AND AGAIN LIKE A PARROT THE TIME OF HIS KOS VS A PAST PRIME MOORER OR A BUM LIEK JOHN RUIZ.. BUT NEVER KNOCKED OUT ANY REAL NAME..

 

I have to waste my time on every crazy idea somebody gets on the forum? I'm ready to answer/debate the things *I* actually claimed/said, not something irrelevant somebody offered to discuss to change the original subject.

An ATG puncher is an ATG puncher, Earnie Shavers doesn't have a practicularly impressive winning record, but anybody who's going to doubt that he's a great puncher must be out of their mind. Just because, I don't know, Muhammad Ali has a more impressive list of stoppages than Shavers doesn't mean he was a more proved puncher than Shavers, actually very far from it.

 

earnie shavers is overrated also to me in the hitting power department, but he was more proved than tua.. He did put larry holmes down with a single shot, he nearly iced lyle with a single left hook, the bell saved him,he stopped once the durable jimmy young, he iced norton in a single round(ali could not even hurt norton in 3 fights) and holmes could not stop him, shavers did hurt seriously the sturdy chin of joe bugner, ali(iron chin) got drunk when he took a single right hand of shavers.

 

The bums tua fought could take punches at least, can't hit back, but takes punches.

Tua's good at least, he gave a run for his money to lewis in sparring, look it up on youtube, lewis sparred him for his 1st fight vs tyson in 1996