david tua vs joe louis

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  1. sauhund II

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    He sure backed it up against a skinny old German who started boxing as a adult....and Tua would spark that Fallschirmjager 10 out of 10.
     
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  3. The Mongoose

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    Who is paccy
     
  4. Perry

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    I don't understand all the love for Tua. The only skill he had was a pulverizing left hook...that's it. No jab, no defense......nothing. He will never be considered anything but a hard puncher.He is facing the most highly skilled hwt ever to live in Louis. Louis had the power to ko anyone at any time. Louis could box incredibly well....textbook or he could attack and destroy with multiple and accurate combinations. All this and some pick Tua? Some like picking the long shot I assume.
     
  5. Perry

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    Another trivia point.....Louis was the only fighter ever to knock down Tony Galento. AND he did it twice. Watch the final two blows Louis lands on Galento in the final round. Literally nearly takes Galentos head off. Uppercut followed by a freight train left hook. Short textbook punches. No other hwt ever threw punches like these.
     
  6. janitor

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    The line of reasoning with Tua's advocates, seems to work like this:

    "This is a big scary guy, with a big punch, I bet he beats this great fighter, and that great fighter, and this other great fighter!"

    No.

    this is a guy who consistency came up short, whenever he was up against somebody who he might get a title shot by beating!

    You can't simply dismiss results at world level, in the real world, when speculating on these fights.

    Louis had about as much of it, as you can get.

    Schmeling had it.

    Even Galento had it.

    Tua didn't.

    I am sorry, he is simply not the monster that some make him out to be!
     
  7. Perry

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    Tia could hit a ton with his left hook. However that and a buck will buy you a cup of coffee. He is not beating any ATG hwt champion.
     
  8. Perry

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    You have no idea what you are talking about and you are poisoned by racism. No one is saying Galento was a great fighter. No one should say Tua was a great fighter. Fighters like Tua and Galento do not beat all time great champions like Joe Louis. Odds are astronomical in favor of Louis. He is just to great of a talent. Schmeling was a FAR greater fighter than either Galento or Tua. Not in the same universe. Young guys like you need to forget the MMA mentality of size, muscle, weight. It's all about the ability to FIGHT. Some are great at it (Louis) and some are not (Galento and Tua). Both Galento and Tua could hit a ton but many down through the years also could hit. Being able to hit hard alone does not make you a good fighter. Fighters who just know how to punch more than likely will not beat prime ATG talents like Louis, Lewis, Holmes, Ali, Johnson. Certainly you can bet on the lower talented fighter to win but more than likely you will lose your money.
     
  9. Synth

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    I see where you are coming from and there is a certain amount of truth to it but it's not that simple. Afterall Tua did lose to Byrd who was a bulked up middle. Tua was not Ray Robinson. Everyone from the old days would have a higher lbm due to modern "sports science" wink wink. So when you even those aspects out you start looking at the style and individual attribute break down.
     
  10. Foxy 01

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    So did Tua for 8 years, but without the KO's Louis suffered.
     
  11. Perry

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    Tua = a contender who's name will be lost in boxing history.
    Louis = one of the greatest hwt champions ever to live. The most highly skilled.

    You pick Tua? Loser picks a loser.
     
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  13. Perry

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    Schmeling was the lineal hwt champion of the world after he beat Sharkey. Walcott was the lineal champion after his win over Charles. Man you need several decades of study!
     
  14. The Mongoose

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  15. Foxy 01

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    I don't need any study. I simply don't give a fuk about the New York state athletic commission and it's delusions of grandeur that it is or was representative of the WORLD.

    Similarly an American NATIONAL boxing association means fuk all. The clue is in the word National.

    Man you need to gen up on life never mind boxing. America is NOTHING as far as the WORLD is concerned.