Yes story of his career and he should have known it was his fitness that allowed him to pull out those wins. As far as Tua, his parents were very protective of him in the early stages of his career and didnt want him in over his head. Lou Duva promised to bring him along slowly, but he brought him along too slowly in my opinion. Tua only got one shot at the title didnt he?
The thread starter is correct in that noone wanted to fight Tua after the Lewis loss. Dan Goosen had zero power to get him a title shot. Cedric Kushner was probably as bad. Tua was avoided because he could be. Had he signed with King, who Oleg was co promoted with, he would have been champion. Im 100% sure of it.
i don't take some one bragging over a guy hitting a guy after the bell as a legit win seriously then throw in that nice draw :yep
Yes but he has had chances to win title eliminators, even recently against Barrett. Vitali had all but promised a title shot had Tua pulled a win off there. Same against Rahman and Byrd.
-Oleg was actually promoted very poorly. He had a hard time handling big punchers, yet was consistently matched against them. He was always thrown in against more promising contenders and expected to lose. He was a stepping stone guy that overcame and found very brief success in patches. His Jefferson and Rahman KO victories were unexpected upsets. Tua was a groomed contender, consistently fed fringe contenders he could handle, doing just enough to stay in the rankings without taking many risks. -Your talking out of your ass with this one. While Ruiz was facing Holyfield for Lewis' recently discarded WBA title, Tua got a shot at the real Heavyweight Championship against Lewis. lol, so your arguing that your boy should have got a shot at Holyfield/Ruiz instead of the Man himself. Tua also had a chance to fight for Lewis' vacated IBF belt but he lost to Byrd. lol Oleg ducking Tua..ok. -Wrong. Opponents ranked in the Ring top 10: Rahmanx2, Byrd, Oquendo, Ibeabuchi, and Lewis. 2-3-1 Opponents ranked in the Ring top 10: McCall, Tua, Rahmanx2, Jefferson, Johnson and Peter. 3-4
To be fair, Tua could have probably gotten a title shot quicker. Beating Darrol Wilson gave him the WBC Int title. If I recall correctly he defended that title a few times which in most cases would have earned him a shot at the WBC title. Then he lost it in a razor close fight to Ike. He beat Rahman and I think Sullivan to become mandatory challenger to Lewis. So while King was in control of the WBC title he was locked out. He sat on that IBF ranking for a long time before finally getting a shot at Lewis. I dont really consider too much of what he did recently as vaild, but there was a lot of funny business with Tua in the mid 90's to keep him away from Tyson and the other King fighters. It wasnt until Lewis took all the titles that Tua became part of the title mix. By that time there wasnt much left of him. His career for the most part peaked with the Ike fight. There were many fighters like Ruiz, Mcall, Seldon, Maskaev, that really didnt go through what Tua went through to get his shot.
Exactly, all this Tua being held done stuff is total nonsense. Byrd and Rahman II were both title eliminators.
It was before that. By Rahman 2, Tua didnt have much left. Remember he couldnt even make it up the stairs to the Rocky statue in Penn. Fat ****.
It was his own fault. He was a lazy,greedy pig who routinely weighed 240+ despite being only 5"10. He was slow,lethargic and had a pedestrian workrate at that size which allowed Rahman to comfortably control him and further stalled his career. Tua routinely choked in big fights (Lewis, Byrd) as well so I don't feel any sympathy for him in regards to him missing out on a titles/title shots. With his power and chin he could have achieved so much more but he was massively lacking in the required desire,will and self sacrifice required to succeed.
Rahman was fatter and in far worse shape. Gainging nearly 40 lbs since his last fight, if David Tua was going into the fight in that kind of shape his fanboys wouldn't forget it. Beside the point, the arguemnt was that Oleg somehow got more undeserving opporunties than Tua. The facts speak for themselves. Tua was in three title eliminators and got one deserved shot at the undisputed title. Oleg was in no eliminators, and got one shot at an alphabet title because Rahman wanted to pad his reign with the name of his previous conqueror. The truth is Tua got more opportunites than most, its his own fault if he couldn't seize the day. Oleg and Rahman did.
He was ducked by all. I think he threw fights and looked lack-lustre on purpose so he could get another title shot. I think he sort of choked when he fought Lewis, but Lewis chocked before as well... for him to not even get another title shot, even an alphabet shot, when he was one of the most dominating forces in the HW divisions in the last 10 years, is corrupt to say the very least! lol... he has a better record though. Rahman did better against Maskaev the second time around as well, at least he didn't go through the ropes! heheheheh .... the thing is those title shots are still there. Look at the division, who else is there to fight? The only top-contender of yesteryear or even now that the Klit's have not fought are Holyfield and Tua. Before Holyfield get's another shot I would much rather Tua to get that shot!
Well, more genius posts from the thread starter. Apparently, Ruiz is a greater offensive force than Tyson in his warped world. That's the only logical conclusion you can come to if you disregard Tucker's status going into the fight and make it out like a great Ruiz win. Hell, I'm a big Ruiz supporter but that is just moronic trolling.