David Tua vs Rocky Marciano

I too think Marciano would take him, but you have to give Tua credit for annihilating Ruiz in an astonishing 17 seconds. Ruiz was an ugly, boring fighter, but he did beat some quality heavyweights later on. Tua also knocked Moorer out in 30 or so seconds.
His fight with Ibeabuchi was very impressive as well, he showed good heart after those hard first 5 rounds in which Ibeabuchi literally threw 90 hard punches per round. I had Tua edging that fight by a point, the judges saw it otherwise.

 

I think it's time to stop comparing men who weighed 180-190lbs with monsters who weigh 220-240lbs. Tua has a proven chin against modern behemoths whereas Rocky fought men closer in size to himself. Watch his fight with Cockell. Rocky throws everything but the kitchen sink at Cockell and the fight goes nearly 10 rounds. Imagine Tua in there with Rocky. A bigger faster much more powerful opponent with a cement chin. This fight does'nt go past 5 rounds and it is'nt Tua who loses.

 

Tua a 220-240 lb moster?

Dont be ridiculous. You might as well call Tony Galento a 220-240 lb monster.

 

In your case, I'm willing to forego logic completely. :smoke

 

Marciano was floored twice ,by Walcott and Moore,that isnt "multiple times".

 

Marciano did the damaging,as he did to most guys who fought him ,eg Cockell,Charles and Walcott,plus Vingo,the only fioghter who carried on successfully after being in with Rocky was Moore.

 

This would be an epic fight....but without a doubt in my mind I would pick the Rock to come out on top in the end. He was just smart in the ring and I believe his boxing smarts along with his amazing power,toughness, and chin would be enough to finish Tua off.

 

Ike Ibeabuchi defeated Tua by slugging with him. Some rounds he boxed; in others he brawled. He mixed it up nicely and walked away with a win (although a close one).

Tua is not getting stopped by Rocky Marciano. His chin was iron.

I see Tua winning this for several reasons.

A) Rocky throws wild, looping haymakers. He's open for counters. Tua would respond with crushing left hook counters

B) Rocky would be sure to get cut in this fight somewhere. Even if he survived Tua's bombs, he's getting cut, which could lead to a TKO stoppage.

C) Both men were around the same height, and would duck into each others punches. Prime Tua (1994-1997) was a lot like Marciano--he always found a way to win and would crank up the pressure when his opponent turned on the heat.

D) Prime Tua had busy hands and threw meaningful combinations

E) Tua is a real heavyweight. These two wouldn't even be able to fight today.

Rocky has his advantages as well. Who knows how Tua would react to being constantly struck in the arms, ribs, etc? Chris Bryd shut David down with a body attack. It ultimately depends on which David Tua shows up. If he came out and went right to buisness the way he did against Moorer and Ruiz, he stops Rocky early.

However, the 245 pound David Tua who submitted to Lennox Lewis would get beat down by Rocky for 15 rounds, but not stopped. David's performance would depend on his mental mindset. One thing is for sure--Rocky would be there to win.

Prime David Tua blows out Rocky early, but the post Ibeabuchi David Tua will most likely lose confidence and the decision on the judges scorecards.

 

And they say there's a lot of rubbish posted in the GF.

:-(

Tua will have a puncher's chance, since he could punch.

Not a great one though, given Rocky's chin.


The most likely outcome here is a wide UD for Marciano.

Totally different levels of boxing skill.

Marciano's defence was much better than many on this thread believe.

He had good defensive head movement which made it difficult to nail him cleanly.

Tua should have lost to Rahman in 98. He landed a sucker punch after the bell that devastated Rahman who was miles ahead.

He lost to the much smaller but better Byrd.

He struggled with David Izon.

In his prime, he eeked out a a majority decision over a dude name of Jeff Wooden (admittedly, I didn't see that fight).

Tua has no wins that would suggest any success over Marciano.

Tua could perhaps land the perfect shot and end things early.

Otherwise, it's probably going to a lop-sided decision.

 

I am a fan of David Tua, but man does he get overrated in h2h matchups. He was no Tyson or Foreman. Tua would not beat Frazier, Marciano, or Dempsey in my opinion. Tua has too many leaks and I question his ability to take it to the body.

 

Read your posts about Rocky 'n LaMotta over a long period, S. They smack of more than trashing fighting skills...more like a personal crusade against them.

To dismiss Layne 'n Vingo like so much detritus is never to have seen 'em fight live, or how dangerous they were considered by the savviest boxing trainers.

 

John,

Did you ever see Layne train live in the gym? What was your opinion of him when he was on the rise? What did you think of his punching power?

 

Layne was a brute on the rise -- dead game. Hit like train, S

 

Thanks John. What a brawl this was in case you haven't caught it on youtube

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