David Tua vs Rocky Marciano

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by KTFO, Aug 28, 2007.


  1. joebeadg

    joebeadg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Against Young I mean
     
  2. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    No one is unbeatable in boxing, certain styles are all wrong for Marciano, Rocky fans are crying in this thread but Tua's style and attributes are probably all wrong for Rocky. Tua is bigger, stronger, harder hitting, a better chin and much more proven against bigger men. Technically Tua is very underrated and perhaps better than Rocky. Not only that but he's more explosive and isn't impeded by being a short man so much as Marciano is much closer to his height and Marciano while having an underrated defense is very hittable

    Rocky either needs to be able to outbox or back him up to take away his power as Ibeabuchi managed somewhat, a 185lb Rocky just wouldn't be strong enough to back up Tua. Anyone trying to compare Tua's power to any of Rocky's opponents is either incredibly biased or doesn't know what they're looking at, Tua is 1 of the best HW punchers ever and much bigger than Rocky's opponents

    This is a Foreman-Frazier-Ali scenario, Rocky will do much better against boxers and movers but against a massive explosive puncher he is on very dangerous ground
     
  3. joebeadg

    joebeadg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't think tua is much bigger than rock rock was a tough guy, old school tough I don't think tua will do good here, but hey, you never know
     
  4. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    What's childish about Chris Byrd's body punching hurting Tua. I'm not making a style analogy or comparison, the fact that you think that shows how stupid your thought process is... or maybe you just thoroughly enjoy trying to one up me. Now, do you not think that Marciano would ever get to his body? Or do you feel Tua KO's him within the first round? Just be honest, if that's what you believe then that's fine. I believe Marciano's lower center of gravity will have him punish Tua's body the way he did in the Louis and Layne fights. Yes, Marciano probably gets hurt and hits the floor. He may be more hurt in this fight than he ever was. But I'm confident in his toughness, stamina, and defense for him to weather the storm and come back strong.

    Now picking Marciano against Tyson? Yeah, it's a little absurd, and I don't make that pick. But making the comparison that Tua and Tyson are equals, and that either pick is ridiculous because of style reasons... well yeah, that's ridiculous. You don't have to be a Marciano fan to pick Marciano... just read the thread.
     
  5. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Very fair assessment. Definitely likely. No easy fight, but it will turn strongly in Marciano's favor somewhere in the middle rounds I think.
     
  6. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If he can get it there, I actually agree with you. But he's never been hit with that kind of power. Even the punchers he fought in his career relied a good deal on speed and placement. Tua hit like an artillery shell. Its about all he had, but Rocky wasn't exactly the hardest heavyweight ever to find.

    If he can get it past 8 or 9, he takes over and probably dishes a beating down the stretch to a late stoppage. But I really don't see him getting there.
     
  7. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    1. Tua was past prime
    2. Byrd is nothing like Marciano, isn't nearly as elusive, doesn't fight on the back foot darting in and out, isn't a southpaw
    3. Could Marciano hurt Tua to the body? Yes. Would he eat more clean punches than Byrd doing so and could get kocked out going to the body? Yes
     
  8. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Marciano ate this for dinner
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    Tua eats this

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    There is your difference
     
  9. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Modern nutrition KO1.
     
  10. Liechhardt

    Liechhardt Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'd favor Marciano in about 9 but he'd go through a lot before wearing Tua down.
     
  11. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    The poster I responded to made the claim that rocky would outjab tua. I refuted it.

    Based on film rocky hits much harder than tua.
     
  12. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Look at what you reply with. How childish do you want to be?

    Rocky has beaten atg fighters such as charles joe and jersey. Yes they were old but they where the best around at the time.

    Tell me the best chin tua dismantled. Tell me the best opponent that got outslugged by tua. Tell me the best world champion that tua beat.

    I'm not gonna stoop to your level and question your intelligence but i'll ask you this.

    If tua is so fast strong and big, why has he never achieved anything.

    As for the fight rocky stands and trades, he wears tua down. Maybe tua catches him with a good shot at some point, but guess what, rocky aint moorer or ruiz, rocky gets back up and smacks the fat fuk back to the local fast food joint.
     
  13. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's probably true, but Rocky was not more vulnerable early than late. He was a little stiff at first against Walcott, but that was most likely nerves, and he was just caught with a peach of a shot versus Moore.
    Neither situation would suggest to me he was vulnerable to an early assault.
     
  14. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    oh **** oh **** MODERN NUTRITION IN THIS *****.

    I do say, that burger looks pretty good. Marciano KO 6 fat samoan with middling resume.
     
  15. chancery

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    Marciano is a top 10 all time heavyweight great. i cant pick these kinda good/ok Hw's against him. would be nice if Marciano weighed more than 190 though. about 220 would be nice. oh well I'll still say that Marciano survives 2 knockdowns and Kos Tua in the 10th round. all heart