David Tua vs Tony Galento

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  1. It's Ovah

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    Anyone who fought for and won a world title is fighting at world level. Tua beat several of them.

    Your mental gymnastics really aren't convincing in the slightest.
     
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    Repeating it over and over doesn't make it true .Tua was quicker in both feet and hand speed.
    Tua had 59 fights and was never stopped.

    "David Tua (born Mafaufau Tavita Lio Mafaufau Sanerivi Talimatasi; 21 November 1972)[1] is a Samoan-New Zealander former professional boxer who competed from 1992 to 2013. A highly ranked contender for most of his career, Tua was known for his brutal punching power, especially in his left hook; he scored sixteen knockout wins inside of the first round, which included knockouts of world heavyweight champions John Ruiz and Michael Moorer within thirty seconds of the first round, as well as late stoppages of other world champions Oleg Maskaev and Hasim Rahman. In a 2003 article by The Ring magazine, Tua was ranked 48th on a list of 100 greatest punchers of all time.[2]

    Nicknamed the "Tuamanator", his fast-paced bob and weave pressure fighting style has often drawn comparisons to Mike Tyson. Tua fought many of the best fighters of his era and challenged for the WBC, IBF and IBO heavyweight titles. In his five losses he was never subject to a technical knockout, and possessed one of the best chins of his time."
     
  3. mcvey

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    Repeating it over and over doesn't make it true .Tua was quicker in both feet and hand speed.
    Tua had 59 fights and was never stopped.

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    • Galento was permitted to thumb Nova's right eye until it reached a terrible condition. Finally, Nova went down in the 14th round after being fouled for the last time.
    • "One of the most disgraceful fights staged since the days of the barroom brawls. Referee George Blake . . . would have retained his reputation as a great referee had he disqualified Galento." (The Ring, December 1939, page 16)




    David Tua
    (born Mafaufau Tavita Lio Mafaufau Sanerivi Talimatasi; 21 November 1972)[1] is a Samoan-New Zealander former professional boxer who competed from 1992 to 2013. A highly ranked contender for most of his career, Tua was known for his brutal punching power, especially in his left hook; he scored sixteen knockout wins inside of the first round, which included knockouts of world heavyweight champions John Ruiz and Michael Moorer within thirty seconds of the first round, as well as late stoppages of other world champions Oleg Maskaev and Hasim Rahman. In a 2003 article by The Ring magazine, Tua was ranked 48th on a list of 100 greatest punchers of all time.[2]

    Nicknamed the "Tuamanator", his fast-paced bob and weave pressure fighting style has often drawn comparisons to Mike Tyson. Tua fought many of the best fighters of his era and challenged for the WBC, IBF and IBO heavyweight titles. In his five losses he was never subject to a technical knockout, and possessed one of the best chins of his time."
     
  4. Mod-Mania

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    People acting like Tua was some unbeatable beast as usual I see, having said that he would beat Galento.
     
  5. mcvey

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    No he was beatable, but not by Galento, better punch ,better chin, faster hands ,faster feet, better right hand punch ,better resistance to cuts.Never stopped!
     
  6. NoNeck

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    Beating Lou Nova with your thumb does not ecclipse that.
     
  7. Mr.DagoWop

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    So tell me. Out of those 6 stoppage losses, how many were because of chin issues and how many was he on the canvas for when they were stopped?
     
  8. Mr.DagoWop

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    Doesn't matter to me. Pasting excerpts from Wikipedia doesn't persuade me to believe Tua would beat Galento.
     
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  9. mcvey

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    That's okay ,I don't see anyone else agreeing with you.
     
  10. janitor

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    While the fight was an outrageous foul fest, its not like Nova was having the better of it, but Galento fouled his way out.

    It turned out that Nova was open to a left hook counter, Galento figured this out, and took full advantage of it.

    I was a bit surprised by this myself, because I always rated Nova much higher than Galento, and still do.
     
  11. janitor

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    I disagree.

    Just because somebody held the world title at some point in their career, it does not mean that they were a top contender when they were inexperienced, or that they were a top contender after they were washed up.

    At some stages of their career a champion is just a name.
     
  12. mcvey

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    Galento was ranked for 3 years 37,38,39 A poor era.
    Also ranked in
    37.Natie Mann,Albeerto Lovell,Jimmy Adamick,Andre Lenglet.

    38.Len Harvey,Maxie Rosenbloom,Red Burman,Gus Dorazio.

    39.Johnny Paycheck,Red Burman,Gunnar Barlund.
    Tua was ranked for 8 years ,96,97,98,99,2000,2001,2002,2003.
    In very good depth eras.
    96.
    1.Holyfield.
    2. Lewis
    3Tyson.
    4.Moorer
    5.Golota
    6.Mercer
    7.Akinwande
    8.Tua
    9.Bowe
    10.Witherspoon
    97.
    1.Holyfield
    2.Lewis
    3.Moorer
    4.Mercer
    5.Witherspoon.
    6.Foreman
    7.Briggs
    8.Ibeabuchi
    9.Tua
    10 Izon
    For example.

    Moorer was 34 years old and had lost 1 fight in the last 5 years ,to Holyfield.
    Rahman was 26-0-0.
     
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  13. janitor

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    Yes Tua was brilliant against B grade opposition. He could do that all day every day, and look good doing it. The problem came when he fougth somebody who was currently ranked in the top ten. At that one critical part of their respective careers, Galento suddenly pulls ahead. Perhaps Tua was the arch underachiever, and Galento was the arch overachiever, but that is what happened.
    Moorer was no longer a top contender, and that is something that cannot be overlooked when assessing the win in this context.

    So the Rahman fight is basically Tua's record of wins against elite opposition.

    You know what happened in that fight as well as I do, and that is very troubling when it is somebody's only, repeat only elite win.
     
  14. It's Ovah

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    I don't know. I've only seen two of them.
     
  15. mcvey

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    Galento has a pretty poor resume really .Stopped by both the Baer bros,Al Ettorre 2 losses to Godoy,stopped by lhvy Al Gainer,losing to Al Delaney and Eddie Mader. Galento doesn't pull afor me he lost to quite a few journeyman and his signature win is Lou Nova whom he fouled all night!