David Tua vs Tony Galento

Not sure that Ike beat Tua.He got the verdict which isn't always the same thing.

• Ibeabuchi landed 332 of 975 punches, and Tua landed 282 of 755 punches. They combined to throw 1,730 punches, which set the CompuBox record for punches thrown in a heavyweight fight. Ibeabuchi also set the individual record for punches thrown by a heavyweight.

• HBO's unofficial judge Harold Lederman scored the fight 115-113 for Tua, and Michael Katz of the New York Daily News scored it a draw.

• After the fight, Ibeabuchi complained of a terrible headache and was taken to a hospital. He underwent several tests, including an MRI, but nothing abnormal was found. After being released from the hospital, Ibeabuchi began to say that he was being plagued by demons and evil spirits.

I never said Galento had a weak chin ,or that he had average punching power,you are the one making dishonest statements!
If you think Galento was a better fighter than Tua.I have to honestly state I don't think you know anything about boxing.There is just no point in me pretending otherwise. Tua had
1.Better chin
2.Faster hands
3.Faster feet.
4.Better left hook
5.Better right hand
6.Better boxing skills
7.Better defence
8.Better balance
9.Better resistance to cuts
10.Better stamina
11.Better record
12. Better consistency, he never lost to unranked nobodies or light heavyweights
13 Better durability ,he was never stopped
14 .Fought in a much deeper era
15.Was ranked in that era for 8 straight years
16.Tua never quit in a fight[Galento did]
Tua lost just 5 times, 3 times to ranked fighters ,another would be ranked immediately after their fight, one other loss was when he was a couple of months off of 40 years old, the other when he was 41 years old!

Galento lost obscure to ham and eggers such as:
Marty Gallagher x2 [1 by stoppage]
Eddie Mader
Al Delaney
Bob Tow
Unknown Winston
Jack Gagnon
Al Friedman
Neal Clisby
Harold Mays
Jack Dorval
James Lawless
Johnny Albert
Light Heavy Al Gainer [stopped!]

Now deny any of that!

 

Obviously you haven't directly said it. That's why I said "If I went by the information you provided".

Depends on what you mean by better fighter. He had the style to cause Tua problems and styles make fights.

1. Tua rarely fought a puncher. The biggest puncher he fought boxed him. Galento was only down once in his career and that was against Louis who went out to annihilate him. Tua would have been demolished.
2. Irrelevant and debatable. Both were average at best in the speed department.
3. Definitely not. Tua was outboxed easier than a can of beans.
4. I agree
5. No.
6. Lol hell nah.
7. Yes.
8. No.
9. Yes.
10. No.
11. No.
12. Tua wasn't fighting as often as Galento. Galento didn't take a lot of fights seriously. If Galento lost to bums then how did he manage to beat Al Ettore and Nathan Mann?
13. Yes.
14. His resume doesn't reflect that.
15. Yes he was and he couldn't even win a title when there were 4 to pick up.

 

You have it a*se about face .It was Galento who rarely fought a puncher and the best 3 he met stopped him. Galento lost to and was stopped by journeymen.that is just a cold fact!

Galento was stopped by:
Lhvy Al Gainer 38%
Marty Gallagher22%
Neal Clisby 29%
He also lost to the following non punchers.
Al Friedman 21%
Al Delaney24%
Harold Mays 25%
Johnny Alberts 24%
Johnny Lawless11%
Bud Gorman 25%
Paul Cavalier26%
Johnny Risko 18%
Natie Brown 16%
Ernie Schaaf34%
Eddie Mader24%
BobTow 20%




Tua fought the following good punchers.
Saul Montana 71% 47kos out of 53 wins
Alexander Ustinov71% 25 kos of 34wins
Shane Cameron 65% 22kos out of 29 wins
Hasim Rahman 66% 41kos out of 50 wins
Mike Moorer 70% 40 kos out of 52 wins
Danell Nicholson 68%32kos out of42 wins
Robert Daniels 67% 41 kos out of 49 wins
Ike Ibeabuchi75% 15kos out of 20 wins
Oleg Maskaev61% 28 kos out of 39 wins
Daniel Izon 70% 23 kos out of 27 wins
Ken Lakusta could crack a bit too ask George Foreman!
No need to mention Lennox Lewis I've demonstrated my point.

 

Half of those "punchers" are bums, Tua lost, they were old, or inexperienced.

You do realize you don't have to be a puncher to win a fight right? Punching power isn't everything. Folks who have experience in the sport know this.

My reasoning for why Galento beats Tua isn't because of his resume or even chin/punching power. It's because of his style. It was incredibly awkward and uncomfortable. Enough to confuse Tua who, like I said, was a very basic fighter.

 

They were punchers which you said he seldom faced.
Galento is the one who rarely faced a puncher look it up!
Nope .Tua only lost 5 fights, two of them when he was 39 and 41 Galento is the one who lost to journeymen not Tua.
I don't call a professional boxer a bum, having boxed I know what it takes to get in a ring. Galento didnt have a style, he lunged with a wide hook usually missed with it and fell into a clinch because he was usually off balance and often left his feet behind when he swung.Once in close Galento would attempt to butt his opponent and throw low hooks on the blind side of the ref. I'll match my boxing experience against yours anyday!
You haven't one single convincing fact or reason to offer to support your position and we both know it.
Galento was outbrawled, [his forte,] by both Baer Brothers and Tua, whose punches were faster ,shorter and more accurate would rip him a new rectum! Galento would retire on his stool before he got ko'd as he did against Max.

 

A thorough rebuttal. There's really nothing else that needs to be said.

 

Saul Montana had 19 losses (12 by ko) he was chinny and clearly not very good. His ko ratio was only 65%.

Alexander Ustinov never knocked out anybody of note.

Shane Cameron holds one ok knockout over a 41 year old Monte Barrett.

Moorer was 34 years old dude. Got any prime fighters Tua faced?

Nicholson has a bunch of knockouts over nobodies.

Daniels has a bunch of knockouts over nobodies.

Ibeabuchi has a knockout win over Byrd. One single knockout. That doesn't make him a puncher.

Maskaev was 11 fights into his career. Invalid.

Izon was a decent puncher.



Like I said. Tua's list of "punchers that he fought" were unskilled.

 

No never I have a vivid imagination that's all.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfGA1TO_zK8

Pss't, he's just counted ten over you!

 

I provided a more suitable response. Refresh the page.

 

Those are mostly 1 minute training clips. You think this counts as actually seeing a fighter in action? Just because you post a clip doesn't mean you watched it lol.

I think you just counted ten over yourself.

 

The problem is that the art of matchmaking wasn't really an art back then.

Call me when the majority of Tuas fights happened in back to back weeks and months.

 

I've seen Galento v Louis and M Baer heard the broadcast of Galento v Nova and seen lots of him trying to hit the speed bag and sparring ,missing punches by yards! .What have you seen that I haven't? Face it Pal ,you've no rebuttal at all.Time to address a new thread!

 

Carnera obviously exposes this as absolute nonsense!

 

It is an outright lie that Galento missed a punch by more than 6 ft.

 

One fighter doesn't set the norm for an entire era. Multiple occurrences of the same characteristic does.