David "Tuaman" Tua vs. James "Lights Out" Toney

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  1. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    David Tua '97 vs. James Toney '03

    I don't see how this could fail to be an amazing fight fought in a phone booth...

    The strength, power and work-rate of Tua against the handspeed, inside fighting and defence of Toney.

    How would you see this going?
     
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  2. KobeIsGod

    KobeIsGod Who Necks?!? Full Member

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    toney on pts pretty clearly. tua is pretty overrated on here imo. that version of toney was a good hw and he would counterpunch tua to death similar to what Byrd did. ****, he almost stopped Tua with body shots though he wasn't in peak condition. still, at his physical peak...tua still can't contend with toney inside
     
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  3. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    ****.....good question man but I'd have to go with Toney on points by a wide margin.Never was impressed with Tua.
     
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  4. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I don't really see Byrd as an indication as to what would happen here. Byrd is a superior mover to James Toney.

    I don't see James Toney backing up like that. Toney stands and fights. That's why I see a great fight.
     
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  5. joe the great

    joe the great Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Let's see it right now. Winner goes on loser retires for good.
     
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  6. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Tua's real return has been rumoured at least 6 times now. And nothing happens. It would still be an interesting fight considering how shot Toney is though.
     
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  7. Suge Green

    Suge Green Boxing Junkie banned

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    Toney's iron chin keeps him from being KOd...He wins with his counterpunching.
     
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  8. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Agreed
     
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  9. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tua wins.
    People are forgetting that the '97 Tua was the one that threw LOTS of punches. Toney's style is beaten by two ways, one is to outwork him, the other is to use movement. Lesser fighters in smaller weight classes have done it.
    So, Tua throw more punches and is massivley more powerful, he wins this fiight likely by a UD, but maybe even a stoppage.

    Now Toney vs the lazy "nothing but a left hook" Tua, Toney wins like Byrd did.
     
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  10. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agree with that. The fat and lazy Tua can't win but the focused one does by pure work-rate. Toney doesn't get KO'd though, obviously :yep
     
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  11. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Toneys muti-talents would negate Tua's one dimensional attack
     
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  12. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Tua kills him. Toney is slick, but Tua's left is slicker.
     
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  13. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    This is why I picked the 97 version that fought Ike. Tua threw a lot of punches at this point and not just a sporadic left hook. Keeps things interesting because Toney can not hurt him at all.

    Of course the shitty version that looked like crap against Byrd wouldn't fair well. That would only be fair if we matched him with the Toney of the last few years :yep
     
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  14. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    Tua can only win by stopping Toney, which I don't see happening as he has no right, uppercut or anything just a left hook, remember before he caught Rahman after the bell he was being outboxxed in a fight that should not have been stopped as he missed 4-5 punces straight, Toney would school the **** out of him in route to a very lopsided UD.
     
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  15. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Rahman was getting stopped regardless of whether those punches were missing. He can say what he wants but he was hurt and Tua wouldn't have let him off the hook.

    Premature stoppage though.
     
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