David tua's impressive amatuer record

I may slightly overreact saying he's a bum. He's not good, he's awfully flawed.

A one- punch hoper with a steady beard.
Too bad he didn't have heart, or he would've been able to press Lewis, he felt Lewis power and basically stayed on the outside rolling his arms like a hopeless bum. (Now I am being 100% truthful, he didn't even try against Lewis after a while.. it was ****ing laughable how easy a fight he gave Lewis)

I remember when he fought Oquendo, and Oquendo boxed his ears off before his chin and stamina failed him. And Tua was screaming after the fight how "Ouendo is much better!" than Lennox Lewis. That made me wanna throw up in front of the tv.

 

Rahman vs. Tua II, go watch the 12th round.

Had that knockdown happened earlier, I think Rahman may have knocked him out.

 

I hear what you are saying regarding his skill. He's not skilled, we all know that. But a lot of other attributes combine to make a fighter, and it just so happens Tua was blessed with a chin and power that took him to a level we probably wouldn't expect from such a limited operator in usual cases.

Overall, he certainly can't be said to be a bum, its too reactionary and dramatic. There are a few tiers between great and bum. Otherwise I'm wondering what Maskaev, Ike, Ruiz and how Rahman struggled with a bum, and why Lewis saw fit to even fight a bum. How did a bum even get to the stage of fighting Lennox Lewis? It's kinda an absurd notion :good

Sounds like you have some personal issues with him from your last line that might make you say such a thing.

I guess the thing is..some people like Tua, some people evidently don't, and in an era where a lot of people are disillusioned with heavies...its just natural people look back and wonder.

 

I remember that KD, however it wasn't anything serious imo. He was more off balanced and Rahman punched Tua inbetween his shots. It was a KD though -- not sure why they didn't count it.

In that amateur vid he was hurt bad -- I have never seen Tua like that.

 

Is that the one where he was about 16 and fighting the Cuban? Sevon was it?

Jesus, he was 16 or 17.


Tua won a bronze at the Olympics, so he was no ****ing mug. Won it with his left hook though, was great to watch him demolish his way through the tournament. Points don't mean **** if your head is in the third row!!!

 

Tua at his best was a far far better proposition that Sam Peter in just about all aspects of fighting.

He would be devastating in this current division, probably the next best after the Klits (who would both beat him IMO).

 

Tua has been a big dissapointment. He lost that Rahman rematch and has been fighting bums for the past 6 years. He got lucky the first time with Rahman anyway. His last impressive outing was knocking out Michael Moorer which isn't saying much in 2002.

Wlad shuts him out and Vitali holds his ground and probably puts him away.

 

Tua was pretty well-skilled. Remember that he was a 5'10 guy with short arms up against guys almost always over 6'2. Of course that makes him somewhat limited, but his handspeed, power and chin always make him a threat. Byrd, who was only a bit taller did humiliate him though, when he was in better shape than against Lewis...

That war with Ibeabuchi took something from him as well. No one goes through that without leaving part of himself in the ring. Ike himself got brain damage and went bananas. Incidentally, i thought Tua won that fight by a point, which would've made him undefeated going into the Lewis fight with wins over Ruiz (19 seconds) and Ibeauchi. Not bad.


What stands out most on his amateur record, to me, is the 60 KO's. 60 KO's out of 70 something wins is a SICK knockout percentage that you very rarely see in the amateurs. Big punchers usually have no more than 50% KO's in the amateurs.