Dawson/Diaconu Purse Bid Results

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  1. ralphc

    ralphc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dawson will get the lion's share of the purse so there is no reason to believe that he will have a problem with money. His own promoter bid half a mil less. Although I think Dawson is the best boxer in the division, if he ducks this fight I will never let him forget it! :twisted:
     
  2. ralphc

    ralphc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Most of your ranting doesn't make any sense but I do concur with the final sentiment. The mandatory deserves to face the champion, and the champion has the responsibility to defend his title. Fight Diaconu or get tarred and feathered!
     
  3. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    I have no idea. You seem quite confident that it will, it wouldn't suprise me if Dawson vacated his title instead.
     
  4. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    It's almost definite that it will be Diaconu or Tarver, and it wouldn't be that outlandish for Dawson to seek out the greater exposure he'd get for fighting Antonio, but Tarver continues to duck him.
     
  5. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    ...see how you're getting your knickers in a twist again?

    So Tarver is ducking him even though Dawson is not Tarver's mandatory and even though Tarver has no reason to fight the much younger Dawson since he can chase someone his own age...a fellow legend like RJJ, for example, yet Dawson is not ducking his mandatory Diaconu when he does his utmost not to fight him, whilst hugging the belt and whilst trying to have Diaconu's mandatory status indefinitely revoked...right?:patsch

    :-( :verysad :-( :verysad :-(

    ...why am I even wasting my time...:verysad

    Tarver is NOT ducking Dawson...at best, he's avoiding him. Dawson is DUCKING Diaconu!
     
  6. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    No, Decebal, you still don't get it.

    Boxing is a business that is run based on money first and everything else last. Ducking, therefore, is defined as acting against one's own financial well-being due to competitive circumstances.

    I know this is difficult for you to accept, but the belts and their mandatories mean nothing. Or, rather, they mean only what financial clout they bring to their possessor.

    In this scenario, Dawson holds a belt that he needs in order to command good paydays. Hypothetically, were he to drop that belt and take on a more marketable (TV, credibility, etc.) opponent in Tarver, he'd benefit based on Tarver's greater renown than the obscure Diaconu, and he'd still be fighting for a belt.

    He loses nothing whatsoever by dropping the WBC belt for Tarver's belt except some fans who can't or refuse to acknowledge the boxing business for what it is. Everyone should understand why Calzghe wants Jones, just like he wanted Hopkins. He is avoiding Chad Dawson, a bigger challenge, for a more lucrative payday. He is not ducking Dawson, just like Dawson is not ducking Diaconu.

    Tarver is ducking Dawson because he has avoided that good payday -- a fight Showtime campaigned very hard for in 2007 -- to fight two bums before finally taking on a decent opponent in Woods. Now, however, the only fights that would be more lucrative than one against Dawson are Calzaghe (no interest) and Jones (no interest). He is acting against his own financial well-being. Thus, it's a DUCK.

    You have it completely twisted.
     
  7. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Even taking your definition, Dawson has ducked Diaconu because Diaconu would have provided Dawson with his best career pay-day...greater than he got against Johnson and greater than he would have got against Tarver. In any case, Dawson was free to do whatever he wanted, as long as he dropped the belt to let someone else have a go. But no...he wanted his cake and to eat it too, because he is a prima donna: he ducked Diaconu but still hugged the belt! Why didn't he drop the belt to fight Tarver, if it was in his best financial interest and it wasn't about the belt?

    I explained this to you patiently several times, but you are still trying to muddy the waters and go off on a bender...

    ...well, buddy, are an intelligent fellow so, you are clearly understanding the simple facts here, but you are arguing in bad faith, so I shall no longer respond to your posts from now on; it's pointless.

    Ta-ta.:hi:
     
  8. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    Don't be dramatic. I agree with you on other topics, just not this one.

    We don't know what Dawson has been offered to fight Tarver, mostly because Tarver himself has made that impossible. Not only that, there is non-monetary value in being on American televison and have a victory over a famous fighter under your belt, rather than taking on an unknown mandatory instead.

    So it isn't all about the purses, although again, the Romanians did a great job piecing together that much money. A fight in Romania between them would be a lot of fun and a real shame to miss if American TV doesn't touch it.

    Dawson needs to have a belt. Which belt he holds doesn't matter. If he didn't care about a belt at all, he'd have just shrugged off the Diaconu bout. We agree that he has shown no interest in that fight. But now that Tarver has defeated Woods, he can drop the WBC and fight for Tarver's strap. He loses nothing in the exchange but has more to gain.

    If he refuses to defend against Diaconu and then fights anyone other than Tarver (or Calzaghe or someone else huge, which appears unlikely), then I will share your disappointment.
     
  9. wooz

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    Diaconu should go back to beating more bums because we all saw what happened when he stepped up to face Chris Henry: A CLEAR GIFT DECISION.:good
     
  10. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    it makes no sense

    i watched dawson v ruiz and dawson v mendoza on america tv and they were shown.

    ruiz was not a top 200 fighter yet the tv stations still showed it.

    why not diaconu.

    mind you if this happened today , plenty of time to get a tv date in place.
     
  11. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Most likely, Don King will try to show it again on his free internet channel. We'll see.:good
     
  12. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    Right. Dawson's manager definitely was jumping the gun. The purse bid only came through yesterday afternoon, so there's no way the TV people would have had time to process whether they'd broadcast it.

    The difference from those Ruiz and Mendoza fights, though, is that it's very expensive -- and especially so now because of the fuel crisis -- to carry an entire broadcast to a foreign country. If the fight were in North America, there's no question it would televised.

    Hopefully, it will be, anyway. A real shame if that fantastic crowd doesn't get to make its voice heard on American airwaves.
     
  13. Lampley

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    Has King shown any fights that weren't under his banner?
     
  14. TheGrimReaper

    TheGrimReaper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    anyone who thinks chad is afraid to fight adrian is ****ing crazy. glen johnson would beat the **** out of the romanian
     
  15. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    let the dust settle for a few days and we will see what`s happening.

    to recoup the 1.8 m i am presuming it will be in rumania with diaconu`s promoters trying to buy the title for there man , hoping to make money after and not on this particular fight.