Dawson vs Hopkins how does it play out?

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  1. Ripple633

    Ripple633 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was a typo, I forgot, but Dawson was throwing twice as many punches as Hopkins. Hopkins wasn't cutting Dawson's work-rate at all. But you can tell Hopkins was not in control of the fight. All he could do was pot-shot and look to counter, and he's going need to do more than that if he wants to beat Dawson.
     
  2. daredevil1989

    daredevil1989 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yeah he needs to do more offensively but i think he can and will once he settles into a rhythm after the early rounds which he usually concedes.
     
  3. Beezy

    Beezy 2 Eazzy Full Member

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    This.. even though I hope Dawson puts on a better show than that
     
  4. Ripple633

    Ripple633 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The thing was in the first fight Hopkins couldn't do anything, he couldn't bully Dawson, and he was spending lots of energy just trying to keep a distance. By the looks of the first fight, Dawson would have eventually wore down Hopkins and beat him by either a decision or KO. Hopkins couldn't outbox Dawson, because Dawson is a much better boxer than Pascal, so I don't know what adjustments he could have made.

    Will Hopkins make adjustments in the next fight? We don't know obviously, but I doubt it.
     
  5. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think your understand not to ever write off Hopkins because of he's shocked so many people in the past and that you never know what gameplan he's gonna come with to shock everyone like he continues to do. But this was what I said in the other thread and I stand by it. Here you go:

    And tell you the truth I think the Dawson fight is gonna be another Trinidad Scenerio. He may not dominate him the same way but I see a similiar outcome. And I'll tell you why. Anytime you got an inexperienced overconfident young fighter like Dawson who thinks it's gonna be an easy night(and people around him filling his head up like Gary Shaw) is not gonna study and meticulously prepare himself for battle. Hopkins is doing that now and finding holes and a plan A, B, and C to win this fight. Dawson doesn't have the boxing IQ or the ring smarts to stick with a solid gameplan or adapt when things aren't going his way, and we all seen that when he fought Jean Pascal. Than on top of that Hopkins is playing mind games by not saying anything, which is smart because he has them thinking he's scared but using their arrogance to shock them when it's least expected.


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  6. Ripple633

    Ripple633 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dawson isn't an inexperienced boxer though, he may not have the ring smarts as Hopkins, but his natural boxing ability and talent makes up for that. I think his boxing IQ is being underrated, because he is a skilled boxer. And Dawson doesn't need a confidence booster from Gary Shaw or anyone else, because Dawson is definitely good enough to beat Hopkins. So all that pre-fight talk means nothing, it's just hype for the fight. It's not out of the question that Hopkins can't win, but I think Hopkins has to grind it out to a decision just to beat him, because he won't knock Dawson out. So Dawson is prepared for anything Hopkins throws at him.
     
  7. Canibus81

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    But it's not the samething when a master tactician like hopkins can adapt to many different styles and has a plan A, B, and C. Anytime you go into battle, the combatant who has the better stragtic plan, will come out on top, unless there overmatched phyiscally to the point where it would be too much to overcome. Your a Dawson fan and I can see that, so I know know you don't want that to happen, but don't suprised if it does. History repeats itself, remember that.
     
  8. Quincy K

    Quincy K Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i hade dawson in the first fight and would in now way pay -300 for him in this fight. in fact, the only play here is hopkins at plus money if you were to bet at all.

    and how can you say that dawson was going to KO bernard when bernard has never been KO'd before?

    and when was the last time dawsaon even KO'd someone?

    cmon, man. think before posting.
     
  9. garymcfall

    garymcfall Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dawson will win on points I think, in a fairly scrappy, ugly fight.

    I just dont think Hopkins will be able to pull it out of the bag this time for some reason.
     
  10. cippi

    cippi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i think it mite be boring
     
  11. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, he is unintelligent... and Hopkins is not...

    But I still don't know if it will be enough.
     
  12. Ripple633

    Ripple633 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I said Dawson would have won by KO or decision because Dawson is a very good combination puncher. Anything can happen in a fight, especially Bernard at this stage of his career.
     
  13. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hopkins uses a lot of his back legs and switches senses when moving side to side. Dawson, on the other hand, always looking for the right distance and the ideal positioning to unleash combos but often gets dragging his feet, frustrated to get late to the moment just like Pavlik who said he couldn't find punching room. Dawson spends a lot of energy chasing and when the clinches take place, wrestles inside hard but with no effect. Hopkins controls the tempo and shows always great ring generalship. Dawson's punchstats show only superior use of the jab thrown and percent connected but it is widely surpassed by powerpunches and percentage of accuracy in all departments. Hopkins moves on Dawson in the second part of the fight and wins an unanimous, specially based on right counters and left hooks to the head. Hopkins win is only contested by Gary Shaw and due to the use of PEDs... Hopkins gets over this issue and looks definitely for Bute in Canada. Dawson comes back to claim his LHWT status and belts against the likes of Pascal or Cloud and the Black Russian.
     
  14. Canibus81

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    Yeah i'm definetly waiting to see Gary Shaw's excuses after the fight with his fat old big mouth ass. He's gonna be mad If Hopkins beats Bad Chad. And i'm not sure about Dawson beating Pascal in a rematch Dorfmeister. After watching the fight they had, Pascal might just have Dawson's number.:lol:
     
  15. northpaw

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    The only fighters that have even given Chad any semblance of
    trouble pressured him, Chad will win a wide decision. Fight will
    look similar to Dawson's first fight with Tarver.