***Dawson vs Pascal RBR***

Dunno man Pascal looked bad in rd 11, Chad was really pouring it on. lederman was considering a 10-8, Chad had a fire lit under his ass for rd 11.

I could easily see a KD coming in end of rd 11 or rd 12 for dawson.

Remember all he needed was a knockdown to score this fight a majority draw. BCD definitely still had a shot in this fight IMO.

 

Will i get some V-cash by betting Pascal by TKO or KO?

 

I agree.

Dawson has some serious skills, and was hardly exposed.

But Pascal has both serious skills and serious HEART.

 

I picked Dawson by landslide, but until the last few rounds he fought like it was a charity event. Pascal isn't the fighter that Dawson is but Pascal won the fight, clearly. Dawson likely would have beat up Pascal the last two rounds, but I doubt he would have stopped him. Dawson is too tentative. Pascal deserves the belt.

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

Just watched the last round again, I was going for Pascal and I was scared he was not going to make it though, I had him well ahead but he was looking very fragile at the end my final score was 107-104 for Pascal, I had a couple of even rounds in there... Not sure who I favor in a rematch, I think Pascal kind of burned out early with the emotion of fighting in front of the home crowd. That being said maybe he is less nervous next time and doesn't burn out quite as fast. If he does again I would have to favor Dawson as I feel he will apply more pressure next time..

 

A knockdown AND the 12th round, which you can in no way assume he would have won. After a minute's refreshment in the corner who's to say Pascal wouldn't have come back stronger in the final three? Also, in order to put Pascal down at all in the 11th Dawson may have had to punch himself out and left himself vulnerable going into the 12th - they were both looking tired down the stretch there.

 

Can't say that he wouldn't but you are crazy if you think Pascal wasn't in serious jeopardy of being stopped in the 11th.... especially after the left that left him standing there like a deer in the headlights with his hands at his side. He backed away because Dawson let him get away. Dawson simply refused to press the issue any further. Had he, Pascal most likely goes down. Doesn't mean he gets KO'd, but it might. I can't say one way or the other.

 

Hey but to his credit he did start to do that when he new that what he was doing wasnt getting it done. He is a boxer first and he figured that would work and Pascal would play into his hands. When he realized that wasnt gonna happen he turned up a notch. And IMO i think its a strong possiblility he might have got him out of there. If not for the butt we all might be saying what balls Dawson showed when he had when it was time for a clutch performance. If this was a 10 round fight id agree with most of you. But it was a championship fight and thats when Chad started turning it on. I only had Pascal up by 1, although according to the judges he needed a ko. That might have happened, anyways this was a good fight and id like to see a rematch.

 

:deal :deal

 

Chad mailed that one in. It's going to really **** with cads head when the very next fighter pascal fights (bute) knocks his out with ease.

 

Dawson is thinking on a tactical level in the ring when he should be thinking on a strategic level. Got all the skills and athleticism, just doesn't know how to put all the pieces together. From what I saw in the 11th, Dawson has everything he needs to be that exciting fighter everybody wants him to be. He needs to get his head right and go out there and do his job.


And Pascal fought pretty much perfectly from a strategic standpoint. I actually thought going into the 11th that it might be a good idea for Pascal to let Dawson tire a bit so he could try to put him down. Dawson was on the verge of hitting the deck numerous times primarily due to balance issues, but if Pascal could get his legs a little tired and get him gassing a bit, he might be able to stagger him and have him stumble over. That would have been a big extra point and who's to say Pascal couldn't have finished him then. I do in fact believe Pascal was doing what he said he was doing.

 

Thank you. Please everyone watch the Carl Froch fight. Jean was trying to do the same thing once Froch started taking over. Its his version of defense. Take shots....Ride them and try to return with interest when the other guy tires out. Only difference this time is that he was in with a much lighter puncher and he was winning on the cards.

 

No. A KD in round 12 would still have resulted in a unanimous decision for Pascal.

114-113, 114-113, 116-111.

 

Good catch.

It was 108-101 and 106-103 twice including the eleventh round (which we can assume all three judges gave to Dawson). So including the 12th round means swinging it another point in Dawson's direction - at the most you could swing it two points had he knocked Pascal down in either the 12th or the uncompleted portion of the 11th.

Here are the scenarios possible barring a stoppage:

1) Dawson goes on to knock Pascal down but not out in the 11th. Dawson then wins the 12th (with no further knockdowns).

We take the 108-101 and 106-103 and we knock a point off of Pascal's score with round 11 going from a 10-9 to a 10-8. So it's now 107-101 and 105-103 twice heading into the twelfth. Then we add the 10-9 12th round for Dawson.

Judges scorecards: 116-111 114-113 114-113 Pascal - STILL victorious.

2) Dawson never manages to knock Pascal down in the 11th, but comes back and wins the 12th and does knock Pascal down in the 12th.

We arrive at the same score as above, with the 11th being the 10-9 round and the 12th being the 10-8.

Judges scorecards: 116-111 114-113 114-113 Pascal - STILL victorious.

3) Dawson knocks Pascal down in the waning moments of the 11th AND wins the 12th, with an additional knockdown.

We make the 11th 10-8, with the judges' cards now reading 107-101 and 105-103 twice heading into the twelfth. Another 10-8 round for Dawson brings us to our final tally.

Judges scorecards: 115-111 113-113 113-113 - majority draw!

4) Dawson knocks Pascal down in the final moments of the 11th but Pascal rallies back to win the 12th.

We make the 11th 10-8, with the judges' cards now reading 107-101 and 105-103 twice heading into the twelfth.

Judges scorecards: 117-110 115-112 115-112 Pascal - STILL victorious and by the same margin.

5) Pascal stays on his feet throughout the 11th, which obviously he loses, and then rallies back to win the 12th.

We keep the scores as they stand on the official record now, and add a 10-9 round for Pascal.

Judges scorecards: 118-110 116-112 116-112 Pascal - STILL victorious and by an even wider margin.


So you see, there is only one scenario where Dawson could have avoided a loss and that would have been to not only keep his momentum going into the 12th but to pull of a knockdown in BOTH the 11th and 12th. Even then he would not have won, and would have held Pascal to a draw.

The only possible way for Dawson to win on points would have been to score multiple knockdowns - at least three in a round and a half. That's a tall order for a non-finisher, even with the trouble he had Pascal in early on in the 11th.