Day Before Weigh-Ins: A Failed Experiment

This. It's primarily a business decision. For big fights (anything with a purse over say $50,000) they should implement some freaking technology and not only measure weight, but include metrics & criteria for muscle mass and bone density.

 

Wrong

1) It's a non issue if guys are only cutting 5 lbs or so like they should be. Rehydration is basically unnecessary then and healthier.

2) The current dynamic created by day before weigh-ins where you have one guy 15lbs heavier than his opponent inside the ring is far more dangerous and utterly defeats the purpose of weighclasses existing.

 

50-75% of all "Champs" would be exposed in a huge way!

Only a few true individuals fight on the correct div.

Im up for exposing the frauds!

 

Even if we are in unanimous agreement there, it kind of is a bit late to say that. It would be like saying "12 round championship distance: a failed experiment". It would be a huge undertaking to get every commission across the globe to abruptly switch over at once, and then how do we treat all the lineages from the day-before era? Do we consider every single one broken from when they were last same-day until now and write off that period as 'the dark ages'?

What of those who currently have spent their entire careers under the extant system, on whom a transition is sure to be debilitating? For the next generation it will be all well and fine, but...

 

it can quickly become an issue if you cut 5lbs right before a fight then lose another say 6-7 during the fight. cramps, giddiness, hemoconcentration.. if u're a 152lbs and lose 10lbs water, you'll defiantly start to suffer from coordination glitches.
Generally weight advantage is hilariously overrated. a better fighter beats a lesser fighter even if the lesser is 20lbs heavier, always. the weight class inflation is as horrendous as is all that p4p bull****. I mean, whats next? Shouldn’t ones bone mass been taken into consideration? Isn't it unfair that when one fighters bone mass exceeds his proposed opponents by 3lbs that they still have to make the same weight? Come on..
I for one wanna see healthy athletes that perform to their fullest against the best possible opponents and no zombie bull****

 

This captures it well.

 

This is a horrible dilemma. I see both sides. Not a clear cut answer. The hydration test used for HS wrestlers seems like a good idea.

 

If hydration is a problem then that's the fighters problem. It's BS now that your best skill can be losing weight and rehydrating a la Chavez Jr, Canelo. Fighters used to weigh in same day and fight 15 rounds (and more for old old school). WTF is wrong with sissy athletes these days who have better conditioning and nutrition?

 

I dont get what you're saying. I dont see where changing it to same day weighin's would be a problem for exising fighters.

Fighters simply have to figure out what weight they can safely make and still feel strong.

A fighter who severly drains himself now like Chavez Jr. for example would likely fight as a light heavyweight.
I think most fighters would have to move up a weight class or two from where they fight now.


The existing system of the day before is terrible imo. In alot of cases the fights become a contest as to who can weigh more the day of the fight and have a size advantage.

Let skill determine fight winners, not size and the ability and knowleadge to severely dehydrate and then hydrate overnight.

 

In big promotions day before weigh ins are part of whipping up the interest. Also, when a title is involved I think it is a help to the boxer not to have any other commitments on their time during the day of the fight.
Perhaps a good compromise would be keep day before weigh ins but limit the amount of weight that a boxer is allowed to gain before the fight, a second check weigh in private 24 hours later.

 

I've heard this idea before, but whats the point of a second weighin the day of the fight when theres a limit to what he can gain?

The chance that the fighter is'nt going to weighin safely and proper increases if you have a weighin the day before and the day after.
A fighter then weakens himself to make the weight and then the limit the next day likely makes it more difficult for him to hydrated for the fight.


What people have to think about is what way is safer for both the fighters and I say that same day weighin's make it fairer to both sides.

 

Same day weigh ins. If you can't rehydrate, you ain't gonna dehydrate to begin with.

Astonishing how like 90% of this forum doesn't even have the most vague grasp of what dehydration is, how it's done, why, and what are the drawbacks of it.

People who don't know what dehydration is and how it works are the one against same day weigh ins.

The others, call for same day weigh ins, the only way to kill the dehydration issue.