(or wally cartier as his fans seemed to call him in the video below} myself and 'er indoors went to new york earlier this year and we went to a history museum which had some great photographs on display of walter cartier...which featured graziano too.. i think the photos {and video} were taken by stanley kubrick, but i dont know much more about them...would like to though.. the pics below are crap, just ones i took with my phone, so you cant see any detail.. afterwards i found the video below on youtube. anyone know much about cartier ?...i know he appeared in 'somebody up there likes me' and was also in the 'bilko' comedy series...but i know nothing else.. This content is protected This content is protected This content is protected [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOot3_c87j0[/ame] [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIBfoheVUQs[/ame]
Dougie, thanks for this thread of Walter Cartier, a fighter who I saw many times in NY.When i first saw Cartier i thought he might be middleweight champion one day, but that was not to be. he was a sharp puncher and intelligent fighter but lacked the chin and ruggedness to be a champ.His best fight that I saw him was against Pierre Langois in 1952.the bout was a draw. But he was stopped by the better guys such as Kid Gavilan, Bobo Olson, Joey Giardello etc. Keep those threads coming D...b.b.
Seeing this thread about Cartier brings back this incident at the ol' Garden before his main-go with Giardello. I was in the dressing room with a bud who was fightin on the undercard. Walter was a very intense guy -- strapping shoulders and chest -- trained religiously under the watchful eye of his twin brother at Stillmans Gym. He was an orthodox, stand-up boxer, with a solid right hand. And you could see, with his brothers encouragement, he believed he could beat Joey, and vault into the title picture. He was gettin' his game face on. In deference to it being Walter's big shot, the room was hushed. Suddenly -- CRASH! -- the door burst open. It was Giardello in an outrageously expensive camels hair coat tied at the waist -- cigar in his yap -- with an army of goombahs. All noise 'n commotion. Joey strode over to Cartier, whos mouth was open, and gavem a RESOUNDING slap on the back: HIYA DOIN', WALTA?" The blood drained from Cartiers face. The TKO in the first round was a formality; Walter lost it in the dressing room.
great story john...stuff like that i love hearing. the place where i took them pictures was here... http://www.mcny.org/ fantastic place....and thats a huge stand showing those pictures, maybe 7-8 feet high... if you're ever there stick your head in, its free to go in. i was just raging i didnt have a good camera with me in there.
jg , great story.Handsome Walter was a sensitive aspiring actor..If Giardello burst into mjickey walker's dressing room , Mickey would offer Giardello a shot of Irish whiskey. .b.b.
If u ask yer local libraian nicy nicy to yap this book 4 u. It contains a wondefull chapter on Cartier. Author is W.C Heinz Title is Once They Heard the Cheers [United States] Hardcover, ISBN 0385126093 Publisher: Doubleday, Garden City,NY, 1979 Tight, bright, clean and square. Gift inscription. DJ has light age soil and some scuffing around the edges. "A distinguished writer travels America to revisit the sport heroes of his past.Floyd Patterson, Norman Rubio, Jim Tescher, Jack Hurley, Carmen Basilio, Freckles Brown, Roy Harris, Joe Page, Willie Pep, Billy Graham, Willie Davis, Sugar Ray Robinson, Lew Jenkins, Eddie Arcaro, Beau Jack, Pete Reiser, Rocky Marciano, Walter Cartier, & Rocky Graziano. A well written tour of America with...
Great stuff, as usual, JG. :good Here's the fight for anyone who hasn't seen it : [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqpW9V1bMvs[/ame]
I caught the Day of The Fight short late one night on television, a very pleasant surprise as i hadn't even been aware it existed.
excellent photograph this i thought... This content is protected Eugene Hairston v. Walter Cartier Madison Square Garden New York City 11 May 1951
The Gavilan fight was probably his greatest effort. Cartier had not been beaten in years and faced the reigning welterweight champion. He was ahead on two of the scorecards when disaster struck in the 10th and final round as Gavilan showed his greatness by putting everything on the line in order to score a stoppage. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c6CQkjj0AM[/ame] Safe to say he was never quite the same after that loss.
