DAZN’s $100m offer

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  1. Trafford

    Trafford Active Member Full Member

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    I actually think they would give him that right now with a 60/40 rematch split to the winner. The only issue is that Wilder is already on record saying he wouldn’t take that. Plus with the way DAZN is structured is there actually a pot split being offered as they are basing it on long term subscribers generated not PPV buys. If the pot split is the issue why not offer a legitimate contract to AJ to do it on PPV
     
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  2. Scissors

    Scissors Up the reds Full Member

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  3. Rockradar

    Rockradar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The Ortiz rematch isn't so bad. I think Ortiz deserves one after their last fight.

    Kownacki is another Breazeale type outing.
     
  4. Saintpat

    Saintpat Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is from the reporter from Wilder's hometown paper.

    That's $20M for 2 minutes, 16 seconds of work. Almost $150,000 per second.

    Not bad.
     
  5. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict booted Full Member

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    I heard he got 15-20 mil for last weekends fight. I think they mentioned that on the broadcast. Showtime is desperate to stay in the boxing game, and apparently they "called" DAZN's ante upping. They are overpaying to stay in the game and in the hope they strike gold with Wilder down the line.
     
  6. andrewa1

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    Yeah. At this point, everyone saying Wilder should have taken 30% or a 15mil flat fee and been happy look fairly foolish. He probably made over 15 mil last weekend alone. Its looking like it will have to be a 50/50 fight to happen, and that AJ Hearn will have to cave eventually. Any way you slice it though, Wilder has made a lot more money than he would have if he'd just taken AJ's early offer.
     
  7. Holler

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    I feel for Breazeale who was due to get circa $6m if Wilder had taken the DAZN offer!
     
  8. Saintpat

    Saintpat Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Still almost $15K per second.
     
  9. Alphafighter

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    Lol, Wilder is already winning, the AJ team in the space of a year has gone from offering $12 million to $100 million and are now under pressure to increase the offer
     
  10. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    Unless you believe Wilder beats Joshua.

    If Wilder had beaten AJ in front of a partisan crowd of 90,000 Brits and had become the first American undisputed heavyweight champion since Riddick Bowe in 1992 then several things would be likely to have happened.

    There would've been a massive bidding war amongst the networks for his signature for a long term broadcast deal.

    Wilder would become an attractive proposition for third party sponsoship, opening up multiple additional revenue streams far beyond his boxing income.

    Every fight of his from thereon until the end of his career would probably have been PPV and would attract far greater interest than he's enjoyed from subsequent fights.

    An agreed rematch with Joshua would've become the biggest earning fight since Mayweather Pacquiao and would've generated far more for Wilder than the first fight. Anything less than a devastating loss in this second fight would've led to demands for trilogy fight which would've likely been in the US and would eclipse the previous two.

    If you believe Wilder beats Joshua then taking those factors into consideration, it could well have been the smarter move to take the fight early and thus maximise the amount of time Wilder spends as undisputed champion.

    If you don't believe he beats him, indeed think that the meetings with Joshua will likely spell the end of his career as a top ranked hw, then it makes sense to delay, pursue safe options and build the AJ fight as a cash out at the end of his career.
     
  11. Holler

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    He wins nothing until a fight deal is signed. Up until that point we are talking only of theoretical earnings. The offer could be a billion dollars but until he gets in the ring he could still slip on a wet floor and lose the lot.
     
  12. Alphafighter

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    The fight deal will eventually be signed but Wilder back then was under pressure to accept $12.5 million given that he has never made that kind of money before but he genuinely believed he deserved a lot more and he refused the below par offers. It takes a brave guy to believe and gamble on himself and the end result is the offer having gone up from $12.5 million to $100 million.
     
  13. Saintpat

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    Da zone is overpaying to get in the game. You think they have sold enough subs to pay Canelo what they're paying him, for instance? Plus everyone else. The highest-paid guys are what are known as 'loss leaders' -- they bring audience to the table even though their own events don't pay for themselves. Some TV shows that last a long time and get higher- and higher-paid talent are like that -- "Friends" wasn't making money by itself near the end, but having it on gave the network a big boost on that night and made it worth paying them.

    It's a boxer's market -- competition among platforms/management groups/promoters has never been higher.
     
  14. Saintpat

    Saintpat Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not necessarily. By all accounts he seems to have netted $30M for his last two fights alone. If he had beaten AJ two years ago it's not a certainty that those two fights combined would have been worth much more than that ... and that would have been the high end of the paydays. Now he's made that money AND, should things work out, gets probably gets $100-150M for Joshua/Fury/Joshua in some order. Or more.
     
  15. andrewa1

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    Lol, I almost put words to that effect in my post. But I figured most of the forum that criticizes him for not taking the fight earlier also thinks he loses anyway, which is a bit unfair; seems he should be able to maximize his earnings if he's likely to lose.

    Although I don't think its necessarily as black and white as whether one "believes" he wins or loses, more like hedging to preserve their interest. In addition, setting it up in the manner it is playing out also probably increases Wilder's odds of success. If he's SEEN as a 50/50 chance against AJ, that has got to help psychologically as well.

    In any event, I'd say either avenue, betting on yourself by taking it early at low cost, or building yourself and the fight up into a 50/50ish proposition, is a valid way to proceed.

    Personally, I'm glad its waited as long as it has. Its a much more interesting fight to me now than it would have been two years ago. I just hope it doesn't go on for more than another 12 months or so.
     

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