DAZN’s $100m offer

I don't think you got my point? I'm saying until he accepts an offer he's won zero and if something goes wrong in the meantime he doesn't come out of this looking like some kind of genius negotiator.

 

But, his last two fights probably each earned him as much as Hearn was offering at the earlier stage. So any way you slice it, he appears to have handled this right. Or at least, in A right way, if not THE right way, again understanding that his total career earnings likely would have been more had he taken the low offer before and beat AJ.

 

Finkel is holding Wilder back and is trying to build him to somewhere near Joshua level as quickly as they can, thats why we get so much noise from Team Wilder, jumping on the back of Joshuas global fame or talking about killing coffins and his alter ego. They will not allow Wilder to face Joshua until Joshua conceeds to it being on Showtime in America and not DAZN.

The normal thing to do when you want to make a fight now is go to the higher payers and Showtime and the PBC are not willing to even try compete with DAZN so thats why they are lining up in house fights for Wilder so they can keep building his profile in relative safety. They are managing to keep Wilder sweet with talk of being the new Floyd, 100,s of millions of Dollars in the future and the goodness of loyalty.

The DAZN offer was a fantastic offer but they have no intentions of taking that fight to that network so they just walked away and tried to play the offer down. Dont forget Espinoza or Finkel said "You would be surprised if you knew what Wilder was getting for the Breazeale fight". Well im not, DAZN offered 20 million, Wilder got 8, DAZN offered Breazeale 7, Breazeale got 1 (so i hear). They are not prepared to compete but they are not prepared to release the fighters to fight on other networks to Showtime. Espinoza is sweating, the pressure is on and he is paying Haymon promotions to supply Showtime with their fighters and the big fights so hes putting the pressure on Haymon so Haymon cant let them go get better money elsewhere.

 

There are no certainties in this but how good are the team around him?

An unbeaten, perfect record (because he wouldn't have had the Fury fight) trash talking American heavyweight with a very explosive KO showreel who has taken on and beaten the world number one in his backyard should be marketing gold dust.

The fact that he'd be hitting his peak at just the time that networks went to war with DAZN would've made his signature the most highly prized in boxing.

So how good are his team? A good one would parlay that status into earnings far beyond what he's banked.

Incidentally the offer he turned down was roughly 15 for the first fight, 25 for a rematch so he'd have earned 40m and then have 18 months or so additional time as undisputed champion. Maybe by now he'd have had PPV mega fights against AJ (Trilogy), Fury (Lineal) and still have Ortiz or the other usual suspects as cannon fodder in the meantime.

Again though all conjecture...

 

See my post above, he'd have earned more if he'd beaten Joshua and he'd now be the subject of a three way bidding war by networks wanting the undisputed American hw champion of the world on their network. He'd be on the way to billionaire status.

 

Well it's not like he's forfeited that $40M for two fights with AJ. He'll make more than that for the same two fights now. And from published reports his purses for Fury and Breazeale add up to about $30M ... so he's made 3/4ths of what you're talking about without even facing AJ yet. Nor a Fury rematch. Two fights with AJ and a Fury rematch on top of the $30M from those two fights adds up easily to more than $100M.

And what's the basis for "he should be paid more." There's no comparison you can make -- 'well this other undefeated trash-talking American heavyweight made this in today's market' doesn't exist. It's, as you said, conjecture.

The fact is, boxing is starting to crest again but the market for it in America wasn't very big during his rise. He's making bigger money, I'm pretty sure, than GGG -- so how good are HIS team?

 

Indeed it is. My comparison points would be the earnings of other US sports personalities, but as you say boxing has been in the doldrums for some time in the US so its uncertain what the earnings ceiling would prove to be.

In theory though Wilder had/ has all the raw materials though to break through to mainstream appeal and mega earnings if he and his team make the right moves at the right time. I often wonder what his career would've been like if they'd been a bit braver in their choice of opponent a few years ago. Maybe he'd have lost, but if he'd been the one to claim Wlad's scalp who knows where he'd be today?

 

Where is the money? It was just talk.

 

Whatever makes you feel better.

 

Where’s Hearn’s money? Did he send any proof of funds? No, he didn’t — we know Dazn has it just like we know Al Haymon has it ... he had all that investment banker money PLUS he was able to put together Floyd vs. McGregor ... you think he can’t come up with $50M?

All they had to do, if they believe it was a bluff, is have Eddie and AJ say “YES, we accept. NOW send a contract with proof of funds.” But they didn’t do it because they knew they’d be locked in and the money was real.

If Little Eddie and his boy toy AJ won’t accept the offer from Wilder’s team, let them send one of their own that has absolutely no stipulation that Wilder has to ever fight on Dazn again if he wins or loses. One fight, $XXX million, no promotional rights for any future fights. Just an offer for a single fight.

Eddie won’t do that. He knows if AJ loses and he doesn’t have Wilder, Daysinn will pull the plug on him. And that’s why this fight hasn’t happened and likely won’t happen.

 

There's no confirmation of this 20$ mil anywhere.
You really think Showtime paid a 20$ mil licensing fee?

 

There is going to be a whole lot of arse hurt in here when Joshua whoops Wilder's arse.

 

It’s reported by a legit news outlet. What confirmation is there of any purse?

I think Showtime ponied up some. I think Haymon’s investors ponied up. Basically they had to pay market value (as set by ESPN+/Dazn) to keep him. Their return on investment comes later when he AJ fight makes huge $$$.

 

Who was the source of the 50M - Haymon or BT Sport?

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