De La Hoya an all time great?...or not

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Action, Jul 29, 2007.


  1. Action

    Action Active Member Full Member

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    The fact that his in-fight strategy versus Trinidad and Mayweather caused him to quit fighting during critical times in each bout....the losses versus Mosely, his stoppage against Hopkins and the fight against Sturm (which he probably lost) prove him to be at a level and a step below many of the elite of all time.
    On the plus side he did beat Whitiker and Vargas but also an aging and smaller Chavez plus made-to-order styles against Gatti and Mayorga. He happens to help carry the PPV wave to this day and there is no denying his popularity I am just not convinced that he is one of the best of all time.
     
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  5. SweetScienceFan

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    Oscar De La Hoya is an Olympic Gold Medalist, the only 6 division World Champion in History, and the biggest draw in the history of boxing. I would say that the answer is rather obvious.
     
  6. Danny Ocean

    Danny Ocean My nAmE IS MoNeY Full Member

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  7. cdub1012

    cdub1012 Active Member Full Member

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    definatley he is.... think about it he has only lost to 4 ppl.... an there is lots of controversy about whether or not those 3 beat him... an when u look at it Chavez was only 31 or 32 when he fought DLH... dLH was 34 when he fought PBF .. an the only reason mosley is a all time great is cause why.... he beat DLH n the first fight.. there are many questions around every fighters career but i think the question is obvious tht yes he is a all time great i would even rank him top 10 fighters below the heavy weight divison
     
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    El Bombasto Ask yo momma Full Member

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  9. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    A longtime elite fighter, beyond worthy HOF level fighter, but an ATG rating can be disputed.
     
  10. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Depends how you define an ATG, when he faced the best boxers he got outboxed, lets look:

    Mayweather - made to look foolish despite outweighing the smaller Mayweather by about 15lbs

    Whitaker - the old Whitaker should have been given the decision, Oscar hit air allot of the time and was not the better man

    Quartey - Quartey outboxed Oscar for 9rounds and was robbed

    Sturm - Sturm jabbed Oscars head off

    Mosley - Mosley outsped and outfought Oscar twice

    Hopkins - beat him with a tap

    Trinidad - give him this 1, a good performance Oscar was robbed

    Chavez - old past prime but a decent win.

    So against the best he comes up short time and again but he did fight the best.
     
  11. Jose FM

    Jose FM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, he is. Everyone keeps pointing out that Sturm fight, so then also point out that he won the second Mosley fight. Oh well, i guess since it doesnt serve the purpose of your argument then thats not mentioned i guess.
     
  12. Jose FM

    Jose FM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Did not look foolish at all, what fight are you talking about? The only one that looked foolish was the so-called p4p who got a SD against a past prime DLH. Floyd said was gonna ice DLH, instead we saw floyd run around and occasionally pot-shot DLH. 34 yr/ parttime fighter DLH stock rose much more than the socalled p4p king

    So now Whitakers old, but when Floyd fought DLH, DLH was made to look foolish? Oh, i see what your doing here.:good

    Definately did not outbox DLH. The fight was close no doubt, but no way was Quartey robbed. Quartey was robbed against Forrest, that was a robbery, but not against DLH. DLH looked dull at times, but fought right there with Quartey the entire fight, and had a sensational 12th where he knocked him down for the second time, and unloaded.

    Sturm did jab the shite outta DLH, but DLH combo'd the shite outta Sturm, even though Sturm basically did not move cause Sturm was a true MW, and DLH was the smaller man, he did score alot in this fight and Sturm at times didnt capitalize on moments where he should have and therefore lost the fight.

    Once! DLH was robbed the second time.

    A natural LHW fighting a natural WW. Nuff said.

    Finally some justice.

    Indeed.
     
  13. SweetScienceFan

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    Wow, nothing like being biased.
     
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    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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