De La Hoya an all time great?...or not

People forget that Oscar started out as a 130 pounder. At 135, he was a beast. He didn't even lose until he went up to Welterweight. These are some of the fighter he beat before he moved up to Welterweight.

Jeff Mayweather tko 4
Troy Dorsey tko 1
Jorge Paez tko 2
John John Molina ud 12
Rafael Ruelas tko 2
Genaro Hernandez tko 6
JJ Leija tko 2
Darryl Tyson ko 2
JC Chavez tko 4
Miguel Angel Gonzalez ud 12

These are not bad fighters. Hernandez and Gonzalez were both undefeated longtime champions before they lost to Oscar. Oscar may have gotten a call his was with the whittaker fight, but he also got screwed (ODH-SSM II, ODH-Tito). Oscar has beaten the best of his era and is a great competitor. he's never been blown out of a fight and would be competitive in any era. He is an ATG, and I think his best weight was 135, where he blew almost everybody away.

 

This thread should be closed on the sole basis of idiocy.

 

yeah but thats like saying, 'if you want to know more about the pros and cons of being jewish, contact me, mr a. hitler'.

 

:good those are the facts i like

his achievments and trinkets are large but his compatition is relativly weak compared to his losses and robberies.
he can be beaten he was beaten by sturm and it was a shame. becuase he didnt earn it to fight for the middlewieght title.

great fighter but not an atg

 

i persoannly feel he is like ray leonard

olympian given alot of attention
pro fights against weak but known oposition and then politics for titles if you drop the wiehgt i will fight you he will run and not respond to challenges. but when an opening comes up he will take it.


he is a politician he is not a fighter.

 

For the first comment, Mayweather stood in front of De La Hoya all night and simply outfought him. Watch it again.

As for the second... Hopkins fought his career at Middleweight. He's not a "natural Light Heavyweight". The weight does look "natural" on him, but he's still a career Middleweight....

Pathetic.

 

...Ray Leonard fought the best of the best. Hagler/Hearns/Duran were not "weak but known". They are all ATGs.

 

Give it up.

 

No. Oh I'm sure a lot of guys think he is because of the clever way Arum handled him during his earlier career handpicking opponents. Making fighters step up in weight to fight Oscar was the primary reason for some of his wins. Oh yes he fought top fighters during his career but in almost each case he had the advantage.
If you are smart enough you can see through the games. Look at it this way. Each and every time when he stepped up and fought the very very best ... the top elite fighters during his reign ... he lost them all. 0 and 5 is his record against the best.
ATG ..... no.
A very very good fighter whose resume is very impressive. Yes.

 

Just the mere fact that DLH fought the best there is and was competitive (to say the least) makes DLH an ATG, no doubt in my books.

 

there is no way Oscar De La Hoya is not an ATG...if he isn't then what does one have to accomplish in boxing to become an ATG?

 

Not debatable. Of course he is.