De La Hoya-Pacquiao more reality than fantasy (espn article)

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  1. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/notebook?page=notebook/boxingjuly18

    Immediately after new pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao finished wiping the floor with David Diaz to win a lightweight title June 28, Top Rank promoter Bob Arum began making plans for Pacquiao's next fight. Publicly, Arum said Pacquiao would return Nov. 8 in Las Vegas to fight junior lightweight titlist Edwin Valero, who would move up in weight. But Valero, medically suspended in the United States for an old non-boxing related head injury until being licensed in Texas a few months ago, might still have problems securing a license in Nevada. So Arum had a backup plan: Humberto Soto, another top junior lightweight who would move up for the shot. Unknown to Freddie Roach, Pacquiao's trainer who is an integral part of the team that selects his opponents, Arum has been plotting something bigger behind the scenes -- for Pacquiao to move up to 147 pounds for a mega-money fight against Oscar De La Hoya on Dec. 6 in what the Golden Boy says will be his final fight. The notion of that fight was first suggested several months ago by HBO broadcaster Larry Merchant. Although it was initially blasted as a fantasy mismatch by some, it has slowly gained steam. Now, the prospect of the fight is real. It's the fight Roach wants for Pacquiao, and he just might get it. Before Arum revealed his plan to ESPN.com, Roach, speaking this week from his Wild Card Gym in Hollywood, Calif., said it's the fight Arum should be negotiating instead of the lesser bouts with Valero or Soto.
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    No more soft touches for Pacquiao: The lightweight champion is confident about his chances against De La Hoya -- at welterweight, no less.


    "Oscar is looking for a fight. I think Pacquiao should fight Oscar next," said Roach, who knows De La Hoya well after training him for his May 2007 split-decision loss to Floyd Mayweather Jr. "Oscar says he has one more fight left in him. If we can get Oscar to come down to 147 pounds, I told Pacquiao that maybe we weigh in around 140 and by fight time we'll be up to 145. I would never take a fight I wasn't confident my guy could win. I'm very confident he could win. Oscar is older and he can't pull the trigger anymore. If Steve Forbes can land shots on Oscar like he did [in their 150-pound fight May 3], Manny will hit him with ease. Manny will annihilate him, I feel. "What does Soto bring to the table other than that he beat Manny's brother, Bobby? How many buys does that fight do? Less than David Diaz, I feel. He's a good fighter, but not a popular one. And Valero is unknown in the U.S. I think we should at least try to negotiate the deal, if Oscar is interested. He's shown interest before, and Pacquiao told me many times he would love to fight Oscar. The guy is going to fight one more time in his life and we don't want to miss the boat. Obviously, I want Manny to fight Ricky Hatton, but that fight isn't available right now because he's fighting in November, so let's fight Oscar. Manny could fight Oscar and then Hatton next year and retire as one of the greatest fighters of all time. "Oscar does have that great left hook, but it's one shot. Oscar gets tired. Manny gets stronger and stronger. It's a no-brainer to make this fight. I think we can knock Oscar out. I've been dreaming about him jumping on Oscar in the first round. I know Oscar won't last. If Manny fights at a Pacquiao pace, Oscar won't last." Little did Roach know that Arum was way ahead of him. "Freddie is the trainer and nobody selects an opponent without running it by Freddie," Arum said. "But for Freddie to come out with these statements is counterproductive because behind the scenes there have been talks with [Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard] Schaefer and myself about an Oscar-Pacquiao fight. So I didn't need this kind of grandstanding. The talks are serious. Richard doesn't f--- around. He's not jerking my chain." Arum is also talking to Schaefer about De La Hoya facing one of his other stars, welterweight titlist Miguel Cotto, who would have to defeat Antonio Margarito next Saturday night. "There is a possibility that Oscar will fight Cotto and there's a possibility he'll fight Pacquiao Dec. 6," Arum said. "Obviously, because it's Oscar, and it's ostensibly his last fight, he will get to pick who he wants to fight. My job is to make the best possible deal for whichever of my fighters he picks. Whoever De La Hoya wants to fight, I'll make a deal for." Arum said that if a Pacquiao bout happens, Schaefer told him De La Hoya would come all the way down to 147 pounds. It would take place at Las Vegas' MGM Grand, which Schaefer has already promised De La Hoya's final fight to.


    sorry if this has already been posted..

    i hope this happens and manny wins so we can get 1 step closer to seeing floyd and manny go at it
     
  2. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    whoooo i aint read the article till i posted it..

    i hope they pull the trigger on this fight.. theres positive's for both fighters

    -if manny loses he just made a bad decision by moving up
    -if oscar loses hes really over the hill and WE WILL DEFINITELY SEE MANNY VS FLOYD

    plus if he can ko oscar that means hes really a threat at the weight

    and this fight will sell the best for oscar and get manny a nice little check as well..

    this fight needs to be made
     
  3. albeziel

    albeziel Multi Viral C13 Full Member

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    No respect for Oscar if he fights lil Pac, no repect at all.
     
  4. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The concept of weight divisions has banished apparently. Like frontiers in the globalized world.

    Now you're not a 147 or 160 fighter, you're a P4P fighter.

    :smoke
     
  5. Adaptation

    Adaptation Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is gonna look like Hatton vs Mayweather, except that ODLH dosen't know how to defend like PBF from inside, so pac will crush him by turning the ring into a phonebooth.
     
  6. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    i can imagine how pac will look like against DLH.

    See DLH-mayweather..look at how big DLH is compared to mayweather and how long and effective that jab was in the early going.

    See mayweather-hatton and again notice the size difference..

    and hatton is supposedly just the same height as pac but hatton is naturally bigger and has a bigger frame than pac.

    So basically looking at the size

    DLH>mayweather>hatton>pac

    just imagine how would it look like weigh in and in the ring..
     
  7. muzkabeatz

    muzkabeatz Lurker Full Member

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    :deal
     
  8. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I guess most of the Veterans here should vow down to Pacdbest for predicting this way before than anyone!!!
     
  9. Undisputed P4P

    Undisputed P4P esb FBL & FIFA 12 champ Full Member

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    i don't think pac will fight oscar as bob arum aint going to get him in with a fighter that is too big, he could clean up 140 but i can't see him going to 147.
     
  10. Spitbucket

    Spitbucket Guest

    I'm not surprised at the number of idiots still buying into this!

    Repeat after me, "This fight will never take place".:deal
     
  11. jaois138

    jaois138 Dinamita Full Member

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    :lol: I think the same **** man
     
  12. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    What Am I saying all these times?

    De La Hoya will never get credit for fighting a guy who's fighting 4 or 3 divisions lower than his weigh class.

    :yep
     
  13. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac will win and will get all the Credits but DLH will be satisfied with his Millions and the opportunity to fight one of the Greatest.
     
  14. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    if oscar was smart hed taking this... itll make the most $$ easily
     
  15. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oscar is Pissed with Roach's comments!! They hyping it already.

    Cotto is still in consideration, Although I like Cotto but I'll be rooting for Margarito so this Pac-DLH leaves no stumbling Block..