De La Hoya said, "its going to be a battle"

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Capitan, Sep 9, 2008.


  1. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think this is a 50/50 fight, so why then would I bet my house on it?

    For ALOT of people on this forum however, probably including yourself, the very notion of Pac winning is ridiculous and he has less than 1% chance. If you guys are so sure, WHY DONT YOU BET YOUR HOUSE ON IT??? :deal

    Just because names are given between weights doesnt make it any less meaningful. Sure its at HW but theres still 100lbs between them, and the guy 100lbs lighter won. If we suddenly had HW, SHW, XSHW, XXSHW for ever 10lbs above HW, will you guys then turn around and say "no way a HW can beat a XXSHW!!!".

    BS, in the days of LW, WW, MW division, Pac would be doing exactly that. Just because names were given for the weight classes in between doesnt make that jump now impossible.
     
  2. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Valuev didnt beat Chagaev despite HUGE size advantage. - Fact.

    DLH is a few levels above Calzaghe in terms of skill and ability - Majority opinion.

    Many picked Gatti to beat PBF because of Gatti's supposed "size advantage" and "power". Floyd was moving up in weight at the time. - Fact.

    Floyd is a few levels above Gatti in terms of skill & ability - Majority opinion.

    Pac via TKO. Prediction.


    So care to explain how that post qualify for worst post of the year? Learn some boxing and maybe you will just not post altogether for fear of posting sheer stupidity.
     
  3. boxerpuncher

    boxerpuncher Active Member Full Member

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    Brother, you're not making any sense. You're comparing apples to oranges. In fact, I'm rooting for Pac. I would love to see DLH get KTFO. He's cherry picking, and trying to cash out big before he retires. Anyone that knows boxing, knows this is a freaking mismatch.

    As far as betting your house on in it, hey, lets not forget. You're the one that's so certain that Pac will TKO DLH. Put your money where your mouth is, amigo.
     
  4. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    thats right.

    oscar has cheapened himself since becoming a promoter and he talks crap.

    all he is saying is that 'i can be a ***** for money too'
     
  5. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Valuev didn't beat Chafaev cuz he does nothing more than hold and use that big jab like the sasquatch he is-fact
    You said Oscar beat Gatti cuz he was A class while Gatti was C class,Gatti is not C class and he was tremendous undersized in that fight and actually hit Oscar a couple of times.-fact.Who brought up Calzaghe?
    Those many are his hardcore fans and nobody else,did you see the odds on the fight?they were overwelming for Mayweather-fact
    True Floyd is above Gatti as skill and ability,the prediction is absurd and we will see on dec 6th.
    You'r post is still one of the worsest posts ever:yep
     
  6. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Didnt I just say this is a 50/50 fight :patsch

    I say Pac tko cos im a pac fan and thats the prediction im leaning towards on. YOU however think this is a mismatch in favour of OLDH giving Pac virtually no chance....so the words "put your money where your mouth is" couldnt be more true to you.

    I know boxing. I box. I watch boxing. Last I checked I was about 3rd on boxing prediction league. It is my opinion that this will be a good fight and Pac has a very good chance of winning.

    Im atleast acknowledging that this is a good even matchup. You just think Pac will get blown away cos of size difference. Youre the one thats appearing so confident about this fight...so why not bet everything you got on ODLH if this is that big a mismatch?

    BTW I think Roach & Larry Merchant know their boxing pretty well too..
     
  7. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Irrelevant. Were discussing size being overcomed. Valuev was HW champ...he must a have been a decent HW. STILL chagaev overcame him using his own advantages. Pac may very well overcome the size disadvantage using his own advantages.

    Yes Gatti is a C level fighter. PBF said it...the majority of this forum has said it. If Oscar, Pac, PBF is A level. Judah a B level...then gatti is one level below Judah, C level.

    Dunno why I said calzaghe, I meant Oscar is levels above Gatti.

    Everything I stated was fact followed by my prediction. The only post stupid here is the reply to that post.
     
  8. Tyga

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    Well, part of his job is to SELL the fight.
     
  9. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i'm talking about character (this relates to my post above).

    you can't buy that.
     
  10. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Yeah I can see everybody agreeing with you....NOT:rasta .You'r irrelevant with you'r stupid Valuev was HW champ,it's called BELTHOLDER brainiac and he was decent enough to be given 2 gifts to keep his 0.That other one is a pure showmanship of how stupid you are''PBF said he was C class'':rofl :lol: :rofl -idiot he said that about most of his opponenetsso it doesn't mean anything...or it does,he was fighting C level fighters mostly so he ain't so A class.Amaze me with another stupid response..or maybe just stop:tong
     
  11. boxerpuncher

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    Well, you did prove something to us. You are obviously a fanboy. I certainly do not dispute that you know boxing, but your favoritism blinds you from the truth. History tells a different story on those type of weight class changes.

    That doesn't look like a "50/50" mindset to me.

    Sidenote - I like your forum name, very unique
     
  12. boxingwizard

    boxingwizard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It'll be a battle for a round maybe, Oscar's going to win this one dominantly.
     
  13. dangerousity

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    Im a fan of a fighter. In my heart I think this is a 50/50 fight. Its simmilar to RJJ/Ruiz...at the time before the fight many of the public were absolutely split from one extreme to another because of the size difference. Many "experts" picked Ruiz simply because of his size.

    I think this is a 50/50 fight. Because I am a Pac fan I will lean towards Pac as oppose to DLH. I have 2 scenarios in my head:

    1) DLH keeps Pac at the distance with his jab. Pac gets in but Oscars size and strength pushes Pac around in the clinch whilst hitting him (bit liek what he tried with PBF). Pac's power doesnt affect Oscar's chin. Oscar TKO after playing with him around the 8th.

    2) Pac carries his power and its not a KO power but definitely enough to get Oscars respect. He uses his speed to land his combinations on DLH who isnt exactly unhittable and uses his fast reflexes and feet to avoid Oscars shots. Oscar's right hand is not a KO shot and he cant seem to land the left hook on the very dynamic energetic Pac. Pac wears him down by the 11th, TKO.

    As a Pac fan, id rather lean towards no.2. Why not? If I leaned towards no.1 would that then make me a DLH fanboy?
     
  14. dangerousity

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    He didnt say that about DLH. Gatti is the only big fight he's had where he claimed it was easy money and a C level fighter. I was in the forums around that time and many agreed with him.

    Wether people agree with me or not is irrelevant. I said Calzaghe will outbox Lacy EASY and most disagreed with me...whats your point? I picked Hatton over Tsyzu when most disagreed with me, whats your point?

    You can call my posts stupid all you like but I find it quite funny how constructed informed writing can be called stupid. Perhaps you should try taking some "stupidness" to improve your responses...their looking a bit dry.

    Sure Valuev isnt DLH but Chagaev or Ruiz isnt exactly Pac...Its an example of 2 fighters roughly on the same level, with huge weight gaps being overcomed.
     
  15. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Yep,DLH was the only one who he didn't say that but he said it to most of the guys,Gatti just can't go in there and win against great guys like Floyd or DLH but that doesn't mean he is C class,he outboxed Patterson when he was an underdog and beat him in the rematch.
    I never said anything about you'r picks,you may have good picks,didn't say they are not.If it's irrelevant if people agree with you why do you say Gatti is C class with most people agreeing,it's irrrelevant.
    My answers are just good,I'm not comparing Valuev and Chagaev with DLH and Pacquiao:blood
    Weight gaps or not Valuev and Chagaev always fought in the same weight class not like former MW beltholder DLH going aganist former flyweight champ