De La Hoya Shoulder Roll is Pure Comedy

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  1. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Out of all the things Sr showed Oscar he couldn't improve his natural stance. Oscar had one of the most defensively liable stances by squaring up and presenting a bigger target along with keeping his head right in the center line.
     
    Leon, Mar 6, 2012
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  2. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    Oscar was not slick and/or Black enough to execute the shoulder roll!
     
    slugger3000, Mar 6, 2012
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  3. EL CABALLO

    EL CABALLO Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, he won, so..... Then again, it was Trinidad's leftovers!!:nod:bolt
     
    EL CABALLO, Mar 6, 2012
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  4. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    So my man.. What round is Cotto going to KO Floyd?
     
    slugger3000, Mar 6, 2012
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  5. kirk

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    Im no oscar fan, but thats not as much a failed shoulder roll as so many are saying.

    He went into a defensive mode ready for the incoming to the head (I dont even see him really attempt a traditional shoulder roll to be honest, hes just getting defensive) when vargas went to his body instead, the force of Vargas's attack is what almost sends Hoya through the ropes through no real fault of Hoyas.

    Then he actually does do the shoulder roll as vargas presses the attack after he almost goes through the ropes, and I wouldnt call it a failed attempt at all, he dodges a lot of the punches. Hes not as smooth with it as Mayweather and some others because its not his natural style.

    But for going through the ropes almost, Its not Hoyas fault that Vargas wasnt an idiot like Ndou and Ortiz who continue to just throw to the head and look like fools when the body is right there.

    Just imo

    Great fight.
     
    kirk, Mar 6, 2012
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  6. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Damn, that opening combo of DLH's shows what I miss about not having that guy around any more.:good

    But yeah, he does better whenever he slips to his old style. Wasn't it this fight where Foreman says "Oscar has to go back to the days when he had real trainers."?
     
    eliqueiros, Mar 7, 2012
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  7. Ilesey

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    Looks like he is dancing.

    :lol:
     
    Ilesey, Mar 7, 2012
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  8. jyuza

    jyuza Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thanks for the vid. Reminded me how good Oscar used to be and how hard Vargas was hitting.
    Fight might have been different had De La Hoya fighting Vargas before Trinidad. Could have easily been Oscar's first loss.
     
    jyuza, Mar 7, 2012
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  9. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mhmmmmm
     
    Webbiano, Mar 7, 2012
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  10. Phat_Ass_Dude

    Phat_Ass_Dude Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Everybody Hates them....Yet everyone tries to copy them!


    RESPECT GREATNESS...THE MAYWEATHERS!!!
     
    Phat_Ass_Dude, Mar 7, 2012
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  11. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, it couldn't have.
    However, DLH, under Alcazar, wouldn't have been hit as cleanly and would have taken out Vargas earlier.
     
    eliqueiros, Mar 7, 2012
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  12. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Shoulder Roll is not for everyone :lol:
     
    FilipMNE, Mar 7, 2012
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  13. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Agreed the shoulder roll worked to a degree, although let's not pretend Oscar is quite the master of it that Floyd is either
     
    PowerPuncher, Mar 7, 2012
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  14. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is why you dont try to change fighters style , because you just end of getting them smacked around the ring.
     
    Gander Tasco, Mar 7, 2012
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  15. floyd_g.o.a.t

    floyd_g.o.a.t Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His shoulder roll actually gets quite good later on in the fight and proved to be effective.
     
    floyd_g.o.a.t, Mar 7, 2012
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