De La Hoya - Trinidad Revisited - Not Such A Robbery?

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  1. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    De La Hoya clearly wins the 9th. Anyone doubting me needs to watch it again.....Honest.
     
  2. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    I honestly think you need to watch it again, DLH does very little this round, what he does misses allot too, Trinidad misses allot but lands plenty, he controls the round and lands more

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx9njIk-riI&feature=related[/ame]
     
  3. bataglia

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    Yes, I agree with you here. Neither man does very much. Trinidad is most probably ahead with 30 seconds left courtesy of some heavy but mostly blocked blows that largely went unnoticed - surprise, surprise! - by the commentary crew. He also controlled the action. DLH wins the last 30 seconds, a flush right hand the most prominent punch, but Trinidad's work was more authorative.

    What's Lampley doing in the beginning with the "he's not outclassing DLH,but..."? How is it even possible to have such a bad grasp of the game?! Good blow-by-blow commentator that engages viewers with entusiasm but as biased as they come. Talking about DLH's energy when, in this round, he seemed tired in both body language and punching form.

    He still won the fight 7-5 on my card but I could see a draw, I guess. 9-3 Tito wouldn't be seen as wrong to me either, for that part. Not much in the early rounds but Oscar still did enough to edge them - narrowly.
     
  4. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    9-3 to Oscar. Badly one sided fight and to try and defend the decision in any way,shape or form is completely laughable. Its a very easy fight to score so there's no excuses for saying its not a robbery coz it ****ing was.
     
  5. lora

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    Only Oscar's decline in hte late rounds makes this remotely debatable.

    tito never held the initiative, nor did he put any sustained quality offense together throughout.Oscar may not have been willy pep on the move, but he executed his stick and moving gameplan well enough to build an insurmountable lead on the cards over the first 10 imo.
     
  6. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    I know the round isn't won on this alone...But check out the combination to the body and head De La Hoya lands at 2.18 of the round, followed by both hands to the body seconds later. While this was a competitive round, I thought De La Hoya won it.

    Trinidad couldn't put more than one punch together throughout the whole fight and lacked variation as well.
     
  7. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree with you. Nothing Trinidad did in the fight was authoritative.

    I agree its a good, competitive round, but I have DLH winning it fairly well. He lands about as much, does the cleaner boxing, and lands the best shot of the round.
     
  8. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Bang on the money. :good
     
  9. puertorricane

    puertorricane Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    only people that say it was a robbery are fans that are not involved with the sport and in turn have no knowledge of how to score a fight. They go by emotions, loyalties, favorite fighter and let the announcers cloud their judgment also.. anybody that knows boxing knows that it was a close fight but not a robbery.. a robbery is when one fighter clearly wins and dlh didnt win clearly

    :hat
     
  10. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Been around boxing longer than Tito or Oscar.

    DLH won clearly.
     
  11. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Which was a sweet combination, followed by going on his bike and being inactive for 2 minutes while Tito came forward and got shots off on him

    Trinidad didn't get any combinations off, but those single powershots that get through count and more so than Oscar's jabs

    Anyway I think I should leave this thread now Peurtoricane is agreeing with me
     
  12. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    I had it 7-5 DLH
     
  13. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    This was one of the worst decisions of all-time. DeLaHoya clearly won 8 rounds and a case can be made that he won 9. Yes, he gave away the last 3... maybe even 4 rounds but since when does winning 4 or even 5 rounds out of 12 (with no knockdowns or point deductions) win you the fight?

    Total robbery, much worse than the draw scored in the first Holyfield vs. Lewis fight. That fight was a draw, not a win for Holyfield and not a loss for Lewis. At least Holyfield rocked Lewis and won round 3 clearly. How many rounds did Trinidad win clearly or rock DeLaHoya in?

    Trinidad did very well following the "win" over Oscar but the fact remains that he was outboxed in their fight. They really should have fought again.

    Another thing... I don't feel that Quartey was robbed vs. Oscar. The fight was close but I don't see how Ike could have won.

    Both Mosley vs. DeLaHoya fights were close. I had Mosley up by a point in their first fight and DeLaHoya up by 2 in the rematch.

    The Mayweather vs. DeLaHoya fight could have been a draw.

    Not sure why people hate on DeLahoya like they do?

    Felix Sturm fight? Yeah, that fight sucked and a case can be made for Sturm.

    Pac? Yeah, Oscar got his ass whipped.

    Hopkins? DeLaHoya fought well prior to the stoppage, no shame.
     
  14. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    A lot of people gave Trinidad round 9 but a case can be made for DeLaHoya or even a 10-10 round. DeLaHoya gave away rounds 10-12. This is not new information. What about rounds 1-8? Hell, I gave DeLaHoya all of these round!
     
  15. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    You might have done, it doesn't mean some of them couldn't be scored for Trinidad, some very close rounds amongst those 8 were DLH does very little