De La Hoya v Mayweather - Through The Weights

Have a read through, think of those fights in question, the age the fighters were, then say who you believe would win between these two at each weight:

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Superfeatherweight

Oscar 1994 - age 21 (that stopped Jimmy Bredahl 16-0 for the WBO title, then stopped Giorgio Campanella 20-0)

v

Floyd 2001 - age 24 (that stopped Diego Corrales 33-0)


Lightweight

Oscar 1995 - age 22 (that KO'd Rafael Ruelas 43-1 to unify the IBF+WBO titles then stopped Genaro Hernandez 32-0-1)

v

Floyd 2002 - age 25 (that outpointed Jose Luis Castillo 46-5-1 in a rematch for the WBC title)


Light-Welterweight

Oscar 1996/97 - age 24 (that stopped Julio Cesar Chavez 96-1-1 in 4 rounds then outpointed Miguel Angel Gonzalez 41-0)

v

Floyd 2005 - age 28 (that stopped Arturo Gatti 39-6 and Henry Bruseles 21-2-1)


Welterweight

Oscar 1999 - age 26 (that outpointed Ike Quartey 34-0-1 and stopped Oba Carr 48-2-1 in 11 rounds)

v

Floyd 2007 - age 30 (that stopped Ricky Hatton 43-0 in 10 rounds)


Light-Middleweight

Oscar 2002 - age 29 (that stopped Fernando Vargas 22-1 in 11 rounds for WBC+WBA lightmiddleweight titles)

v

Floyd 2007 - age 30 (that defeated 34-year-old De La Hoya on a split decision for WBC title)
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IMO...

130: 2001 Floyd beats 1994 Oscar convincingly
135: 2002 Floyd beats 1995 Oscar close but clear
140: 2005 Floyd beats 1996/7 Oscar - very close
147: 1999 Oscar beats 2007 Floyd - very close
154: 2002 Oscar beats 2007 Floyd close but clear



Thoughts/opinions??

 

Your post makes no sense whatsoever.

Oscar fought at world title level for 1 year at 130, the year he was 21, and he never fought a top 5 fighter at that weight at the time. He won his WBO title from Jimmy Bredahl, who was ranked 7th by The Ring at the time, and then he moved up to 135.

Mayweather beat Angel Manfredy, Genaro Hernandez and Jesus Chavez at 130, matured there at world title level for 3 years by defending his WBC title 9 times and becoming recognized as the clear no1 at the weight before he moved up at age 24.

Mayweather beat pound-for-pound no.5 Diego Corrales (33-0) by stoppage in 2001 at age 24. Do you think a 21-year-old De La Hoya who had had only 13 pro fights and had never fought even 1 top quality opponent could have lived with that version of Mayweather?

:-(

 

Good post, and very possibly the right answers. I just feel that DLH's prime weight was 147, whereas PBF's was 130-135, so I think the 1999 De La Hoya could use his natural strength and speed to beat Mayweather at 147, where I don't think Mayweather was ever comfortable - but of course this was never exploited by the standard of opposition Floyd fought at 147 (IMO, pretty shoddy).

 

IMO oscar beats floyd at 140 and up. at 135 and down floyd has the upper hand because of speed. but have you all forgotten how fast DLH was in his prime?

when he fought floyd he was out of his prime and he didnt turn into his punches the same way he used to.

his left hook that used to be gold wasnt there which would be a deciding factor in itself.

it all depends on how mayweathers chin is as we have not yet seen it tested.

 

Corley wobbled Floyd at 140, there's no way PBF would've been shaken by a guy of Corley's calibre at 130 or 135. Judah effectively dropped him at 147, and in his other fights at 147 PBF was simply too good to be hit (or the opposition was too bad?) so we never saw him take a big shot.

If Corley and Judah staggered Floyd at 140 and 147, we can assume Oscar would have the power to floor him, but Floyd's speed and defence were good enough to avoid this south of 147. I put the Corley shot down to complacency or a momentary lapse. And to be honest, taking one good punch in a whole fight isn't too bad. I still think Floyd could edge a decision at 140, but I definitely fancy Oscar at 147.

 

If you look at the opposition they fought and their performances, I think Whitaker was significantly better at 147 than Floyd. Whitaker also beat a very big, very good 154 champion in Julio Cesar Vasquez (who beat Winky at 154). Whitaker was also a slicker boxer than Floyd, and these two are often compared because of their quality but in reality they were not very similar in style. I don't believe the DLH-Whitaker fight would have any relevance to a DLH 99 v Mayweather 07 fight at 147.

 

taking a power shot from judah or corley isnt the same as taking a power shot from the prime DLH :deal

 

im not saying that it would be an easy fight or a blowout, all im saying is that i think once you get up to 140 were power starts to become a bigger factor than in the lighter weights i would give the edge to a prime DLH

 

Of course it isn't, I never implied it was. I think Oscar would win at 147, but despite Corley showing Floyd can be hurt at 140, I'd still favour him slightly to outpoint DLH there. Not much in it though.