De La Hoya vs Arguello who would have won (their primes) at 140 or lower?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I was watching when De La Hoya fought Molina and noticed how his guard was quite active with a high guard similar to how Alexis fought Mancini and they threw a lot of jabs, but Oscar was a lot quicker than Alexis, while he seemed easier to hit, Arguello`s head movement was smoother and his right glove was held nearer to his his chin, who would have won if both were in there primes?
     
  2. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Arguello, in a close fight, he was greater boxer of the two without a doubt.
     
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  3. Okin129

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    At 130 - Arguello
    At 135 - Arguello (close)
    At 140 - De La Hoya
     
  4. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    Spot on.

    De La Hoya was still pretty green at 130 so I'd pick Arguello definitely.

    By 140, DLH was at his peak. It's a shame he didn't stick around there longer but there were bigger fights waiting up at welterweight.

    135 is the really intriguing one. Arguello wasn't at his peak at lightweight but still tremendous. DLH was a really big puncher there - he just didn't stick around for a long time. I give the edge to Arguello here, but not by much.
     
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  5. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    Since DLH has lost every big fight, I think nothing changes here. Arguello by MD. & UD at 130, 135.

    I guess DLH @140?
     
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  6. Matt Bargas

    Matt Bargas Member Full Member

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    DLH clearly the bigger man.

    Arguello started out as a featherweight (126#), then superfeather (130#) for quite a while before moving up to LW.

    DLH started as junior LW which I suppose is the same as superfeather, but he quickly moved up to the higher weights.

    So DLH at 130 would be very young or if older, he would have to subject himself to a starvation diet that would weaken him.
     
  7. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    I think the DLH at LW that beat JCC vs ETM at LW that beat Mancini would've been the most competitive versions. Both guys about 5'10, about an inch difference in reach & both have pretty good chins, ETM a great one.
     
  8. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    15 rd fighter vs 8 rd fighter. Arguello caves in delas ribs. Maybe scores a 1 punch knockout
     
  9. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed.

    Oscar is not going to like that left hook to the breadbasket. He'd have alligator arms pretty quick in there against this guy. and sooner or later that straight right hand is coming down the pipe to finish things. I loved the way Arguello would patiently set that missile up. He'd do it against Oscar as well & the second half of a bout is going to be very difficult for DLH when he slows down and drops those hands. A sharpshooter & finisher like Alexis does not require much of a window to capitalize on.

    DLH a completely different fighter after like the 8th round & I always thought was a guy that benefitted quite a bit with the 12 round rule. I think lots of the proven 15 round guys have him in lots of trouble.
     
  10. unitas

    unitas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oscar takes this rather easily imo. Oscar was bigger, much faster and had similar power. stylewise, Oscar Always loved Fighting the orthodox/straight up type of fighters (like Trinidad)……….and arguello fit that bill. Oscar by wide UD.
     
  11. Inside pass

    Inside pass Member Full Member

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    I'll pick de LA hoya, he was a monster at LW and KO'd some sturdy champions.
    Against Mancini, arguelo struggled a bit with the youth n speed, though he caught up n KO'd Mancini later in a 15 r fight but in a 12 r fight I'll pick de LA hoya.
     
  12. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Alexis is the better fighter
     
  13. ray fritz

    ray fritz Active Member Full Member

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    ALEX FAR WIDE SUPERIOR
     
  14. ray fritz

    ray fritz Active Member Full Member

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    MANCINI I WOULD TAKE OVER DE LA HOYA
     
  15. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Below 140 AA, at 140, Oscar.