De La Hoya vs Duran@135

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  1. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've recently rewatched some of Oscars fights in his skinny lightweight days and I must say I was mightily impressed.

    I forgot just how big he looked squashing normally durable little guys like Paez and Leija and how much his power and speed were factors in his demolition of Ruelas and beating of Hernandez.

    I reckon if he didn't outgrow 135 he could have potentially been one of the best ever at this weight and it got me wondering how he would have went against the greatest lightweight of all.

    I know his resume is very thin but I just think his size,speed and power could maybe give the naturally smaller Duran some concerns.Remember De Jesus twice floored Roberto with left hooks and Oscar's hook was absolutely brutal at lightweight and he was bigger and better than De Jesus.

    That said Duran would have to be heavily favoured.

    Does anyone give the Golden Boy any chance at all?
     
  2. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Duran would destroy the robot late rounds KO after winning every round. Delahoya is too mechanical and predicatable, which will make him easy for Duran to time, slip, and catch flush. He doesnt have the defense to keep Duran off him. Especially at lightweight as Delahoyas skill set was very much pre-prime at this weight
     
  3. TommyV

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    Not really. Duran was just too good.
     
  4. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd hardly say Oscar was robot like as he showed decent footwork and jab and a definate fluidity of movement at this young age.
    Also his defense was very good at this weight IMO (post Molina fight especially) as evidenced by the Hernandez fight,which showed he could box beautifully when his power wasn't just gunna do it for him.
     
  5. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i fancy roberto at 135 and osacr a welterweight. oscar would of been a great fight for anyone from lightweight to super welterweight
     
  6. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Duran beat Leonard emphatically at Welter who is a top3 Welter of all time. Who did Delahoya beat emphatically that was elite? Delahoya lost to Mosley and had close fights with Whitaker, Trinidad, Quartey (I had him losing 2 of those)
     
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  8. TommyV

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    That performance by Duran is probably not something he could turn in on a regular basis though.
     
  9. the cobra

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    I pick Duran over Oscar at 135, 147, and maybe 154, probably 160 too.

    DLH is bigger, but Duran in top form was clearly better overall.
     
  10. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Oscar would have been just another ko victim of a vicious, fired-up Duran. In his lightweight heyday, Duran was too much animal for ANY lightweight.
     
  11. Sweet Pea

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    Oscar over the Montreal Duran? Or the Duran of the Palomino fight? Hell no.

    And Oscar wasn't a better LW than Dejesus, even if he was bigger. He was quite robotic as has been said, too stiff for my liking. Good footwork, but little head movement or finesse to his offense.
     
  12. Robbi

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    He was anything but 'stiff' against Hernandez. His fluid upperbody and head movement was never done as much again during a fight in his career, and that includes the first Chavez fight. De La Hoya was a constant, bobber and weaver, against Hernandez. Lots of feints, jabs, twisting from the waist, quick burts, and making himself a very elusive target as he changed the height of himself. And I'd also say he was smooth and unrobotic against Ruelas as well. Molina, Paez, etc, he was straight up and down.
     
  13. Sweet Pea

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    I thought he looked like he normally did to be honest. I just never saw a lot of finesse in his game, even though he did try out different gameplans.
     
  14. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Watch his fight against Paez which lasted lasted two rounds then the Ruelas fight which went the same. He's fluid against Ruelas, not flat-footed, and entirely different than he was against Paez when he was extremely rigid and stiff. Not how he normally looked, probably because Ruelas was the first fight in which Rivero had input in the corner even though Alcazar was still the main trainer at that point.
     
  15. Sweet Pea

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    De La Hoya did show good footwork in the Ruelas fight, and in quite a few of his fights. He's showed a tight guard as well when it came to defense, but I've never really seen fluid head movement from him, not in that fight anyway.