De la Hoya vs. Mayweather is a good test

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Ceej1979, Apr 11, 2011.


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  1. Ceej1979

    Ceej1979 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    To show, whether you actually watched boxing at the time, or just spend your time trawling Boxrec.

    On another board, there's this guy, who talks so much stupidity on this fight, that I'm convinced he just went on Wikipedia, saw "SD" and thought it would be good trolling material

    I'll go through his claims

    1: It was a close fight.

    It wasn't. It was a very one sided boring fight, in which Oscar barely landed a shot past round 3. I think Mayweather landed twice as many shots.

    2: Mayweather ducked the re-match

    You know, this is the hilarious bit.

    If you were around in 2007, you'd know three things

    a: haters actually criticized, and trolled Mayweather for even taking the first bout

    b: they were even worse, after seeing how bad oscar was

    c: nobody on the planet - pundits, fans, haters - wanted a re-match. Certainly after Steve Forbes embarrassed De la Hoya on his comeback, and everyone realize he was completely finished

    You know. It shows you what this fan hating really is.

    2 years ago, you had fans trolling that Mayweather was cherry picking for even considering rematching De la Hoya

    If you were about at the time, you'd know that Mayweather got slaughtered for how bad Oscar was in their first fight. Let alone considering rematching him.
     
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  2. Kojiro

    Kojiro Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I generally agree with your post, except for this part.

    There were plenty of casual fans and fools here on ESB claiming Oscar won the fight because he was the aggressor blah blah. Many wanted a rematch saying that DLH stopped jabbing for no reason in the first fight but in the 2nd he would use the jab consistently and win.
     
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  3. causality

    causality Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What the f* are you smoking since 2007.
     
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  4. thefede

    thefede Member Full Member

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    nice post dude ;)
     
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  5. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    It seems to me that YOU weren't watching boxing at the time.

    1. It was a close fight. You say that Oscar did land many punches... I say neither did Mayweather. Mayweather's face was worse for wear after the fight than Oscar's was... that's for sure. Oscar didn't even look like he had been in a fight. Mayweather was getting credit for feather dusting Oscar's gloves for most of the fight.

    2. Mayweather was NOT criticized for taking the fight with Oscar. That's quite possibly the most ******ed thing I have read in at least a month. Hell, people were saying the fight was so unfair because Oscar wanted Reyes gloves, and that Floyd's hands were sure to break.:-(

    Hell, even by the time that Oscar vs Pac came around, it was OSCAR who was criticized for fighting Pac.

    3. People DID want to see Oscar vs Mayweather II, as it was widely thought that Oscar could use his jab more and win that fight, as he was winning the first fight when he used his jab.


    If Oscar didn't land any punches on Floyd... I wonder who did this to Mayweather's eyes that night?
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  6. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    The consensus for Hoya-Pac was that Hoya was too big, athletic, and smart for Pac and that he'd run him over based almost solely on size. Same with Cotto, and with Hatton. Lots of revisionism.
     
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  7. tim851

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    Good post WiDDoW_MaKeR.

    I had Floyd winning 116-112, but it was a close fight because he was unbelievably timid. Oscar didn't land too much, but at least for the first 5 rounds, he was active. Then he started to run out of gas. If he had managed to hang in there a little longer, he might have won another round on Jerry Roth's card and the fight would have been a draw.
     
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  8. pahapoisu

    pahapoisu Superman! Full Member

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    The funny thing with Cotto and Hatton are that neither are much bigger then Pacquiao. Not by a significant margin.
     
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  9. Kittikasem

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    MYTH: Floyd landed many more punches and won easily, only the judges didn't see it that way.

    TRUTH: It was a very close fight, because Oscar's activity made it so, as Floyd didn't do much other than try not to get hit for the vast majority of the fight. Floyd took some rounds big down the stretch, but they were only 10-9s, same as the rounds Oscar edged on workrate early.


    Without a doubt, one of Mayweather's most disappointing, underwhelming, unimpressive, negative and inhibited performances. And it came on the biggest night of his career.
     
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  10. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    this was a very dissapointing boring fight but floyd really did win it, its his best win in my eyes and that says a lot about his resume.
     
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  11. Ceej1979

    Ceej1979 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're the type of fight fan I'm talking about.

    Watch the fight. Look at the punch stats

    Oscar landed 90 in total Mayweather about 190

    Floyd barely broke sweat after round 4

    Pacquiao's face was bruised up against Clottey - guess that was a close fight................

    NOBODY wanted Oscar vs. Mayweather 2.

    Fans were callig him a coward for even considering it
     
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  12. Ceej1979

    Ceej1979 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's because most people assumed De la Hoya would be around the same sort of weight against Pacquiao as he was against Mayweather

    170 pounds.

    He was 147. One pound more than Pacquaiao was against Juan Marquez………….
     
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  13. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    I was pissed as a fart after a night out by the time the fight started and pretty much all I remembered when I woke up the next morning was that it wasn't worth watching again.
     
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  14. Ceej1979

    Ceej1979 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If your opponent lands twice as many shots as you, you don't win on any card.

    The only reason it was a split, is because Oscar de la Hoya was the big name
     
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  15. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Thanks for those accurate stats compubox
     
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