De la Hoya vs. Mayweather is a good test

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  1. Ceej1979

    Ceej1979 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Probably more the fact that haters, and fan boys, just make excuses, no matter what happens.

    Oscar was 22 pounds heavier than Mayweather in ring. That's why he was running for his life.

    If he'd demand Oscar came in at 147, I'm sure it would have been a lot easier
     
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  2. Ceej1979

    Ceej1979 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Probably says 2 things

    1: You don't know boxing very well

    2: You're quite deluded in regards to Paquiaos

    What's Pacquiaos best career win? Barrera?

    Yeah, that's a million miles better than say Castillo, Coralles, De la Hoya at 154!

    Getting beat up, doesn't make the opponent great.
     
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  3. Ceej1979

    Ceej1979 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Have a look at punch differentials in Pacquiao fights

    Manny didn't land 190 shots on Clottey. Not even close

    Clottey vs. Pacquiao was a lot closer, than Mayweather vs. Oscar
     
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  4. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    Yeah, that's not correct. Bouts are not won on punches landed, they are scored on a round to round basis.
     
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  5. Kittikasem

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    They didn't get weighed on the night, did they? :huh
     
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  6. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    not true - your opponent might outland you severely for the first 5 rounds, before you win the next seven by boxing efficiently. That way you've been outlanded but have won the fight.

    Punch stats don't equate to wins
     
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  7. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    Laughable.
     
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  8. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    what does manny has to do with this? I had floyd winning 7-4-1 and I consider a past prime oscar his best win, do you?
    Its about as good as oscars win vs pernell whitaker or chavez.
     
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  9. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Right - the guy's a troll - time to ignore him
     
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  10. elTerrible

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    Only DLH was the favorite. Pac was the betting favorite vs all of his opponents since DLH. I even looked at the odds for Cotto v Pac and there was a pretty big favoritism towards Pac. Even though I thought Pac would win, I still thought the betting lines were underestimating cottos chances.
     
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  11. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    you cant score fights if you really believe that, you act like oscar didnt win a round in that fight? mayweather vs Oscar was about as close as may vs castillo 2 or morales vs pac 1.
     
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  12. Ceej1979

    Ceej1979 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Explain to me how Mayweather didn't land more shots in almost EVERY round

    You're not too good at maths.
     
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  13. Ceej1979

    Ceej1979 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd was 150. Oscar was 172

    It was on Mayweather/Mosely 24/7
     
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  14. Pyong Chun

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    this thread will ends in ped's :lol:
     
    Pyong Chun, Apr 11, 2011
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  15. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    bookies make these odds based on what they expect people will bet on, casual fan will bet on pac becasue he is better known and more in the media but in reality a fight might be 60-40 like the cotto fight was viewed by us boxing fans back then and the odds are like 75-25 for pac with the bookies, which means there is value in a lot of these kind of bets, same there was in maidana vs khan for example.
     
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