De La Hoya's boxing useless against Pacman but effective against Floyd. LOOK!

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  1. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    :deal some1 with a brain. The thread starter clearly missed this blatant detail.
    Everything isnt ceteris parabus in this analysis.
    If Floyds fight with Oscar wouldve happen at 147. It wouldve been worst for Oscar

    Oscar picked the weight, the gloves, down to the ring size. He wanted every conceivable advanatage against Floyd and it still backfired
    That arguement you pose is a shaky 1
     
  2. abujafar

    abujafar Active Member Full Member

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    Hey everyone, remember that the adage styles makes fights is a fundamentally accepted rule in boxing.

    The results of pac - dlh and pbf - dlh and pac - jmm and pbf - jmm are no indicator as to how pbf - pac will end.

    Therefore argue with some restraint.

    My opinion:

    If you want to know how pbf - pac will end then just watch any of pbfs forty victories.

    I could say watch any of pacman's fights but he has several losses. So I don't know if you should watch his victories or his losses.:D

    Final thoughts:

    I still think they both represent the best of this era.:thumbsup
     
  3. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    floyd ran away from oscar... oscar ran away from pac. lol
     
  4. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    Well, in my defense, this was right before somebody pointed out that this is a reply to another thread...which is just downright gay. I thought he was REALLY trying to say something here. My mistake.
     
  5. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    Well I see that NOW. I just try to give people the benefit of the doubt. I have too much faith in ESB poster. Funny ass comment though.
     
  6. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    Not just that...the analogy is shaky!
     
  7. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Ali's boxing useless against Norton and Frazier but effective against Foreman(who KO'd both Frazier and Norton in 2 rounds)!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Styles make fights.
     
  8. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    I think this has been obvious and underlying throughout the thread, but we are all just kind of waiting to see if the thread starter picks it up on his own without anybody actually having to spell it out. Either way, you're right.
     
  9. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    It's amazing how many people on ESB don't get that. It took three pages before it was even mentioned. It was so obvious from the beginning of the thread that I thought I misunderstood the topic.
     
  10. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think Pac would have won the fight had he gone up to face DLH at 154 as Floyd did. That being said Hoya said in his 24/7 that he was in a lose/lose situation vs Pac. Warning bells should have rang out all over the place. When a fighter says that before a fight there is something seriously seriously wrong with his state of mind going into it, so it is possible that Hoya's will was gone vs Pac before the opening bell sounded. Maybe he foresaw the result which followed Mayweather/Marquez immediately after the fight insofar as public opinion is concerned?:think

    Anyway, drained, outspeeded, whatever you wanna call it, PBF did take on a big puncher in DLH (even if he wasn't the speedy fighter of pre-Hopkins/retirement fight) at his comfortable weight.
     
  11. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Kudos to both fighters.
    DLH beats them both in his prime though. :bbb
     
  12. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Oscar won that fight. HBO did not want Oscar to win and it so appears that the judges did not either. I watched that fight and Had it for Oscar. They gave Void credit for punches he did not even land and did not give Oscar credit the punches he landed. Void has lost two times, once to Oscar and once to Castillo, the judges saved Void both times.
     
  13. batang kanto

    batang kanto ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    and marquez went up for floyd and floyd didn't even bother to make weight and had a ten-pound or more weight advantage during the fight yet floyd couldn't even finish him
     
  14. batang kanto

    batang kanto ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Pac wouldn't even be able to make 154 coz he's small.
     
  15. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know. I'm just using it as an example. Oscar was big, and not big lightweight like he was in the early nineties, but big thirty five year old who has to move up in weight, not down. A kid can move up and down at will, or an athlete like Jones and Pac, but Hoya at the end of his career sat at a desk all day talking to moviestars and didn't like to train much if rumors are correct.