Never that wide but I thought DLH maybe won about 7-5. It certainly wasnt his best performance (nor was it Trinidad`s) DLHs best performance vs good fighters was either vs Mosely II or Vargas, probably Vargas since he finished him very emphatically & those blind arseholes gave the fight to Mosely anyway.
I would say DLH's best overall performance was against Vargas. It was a back and forth fight, where many questioned his power against a bigger man, with honest bad blood coming from Vargas (not just showmanship), and a decisive victory at the end. That must have been unbelievably satisfying for Oscar.
That is such an absurd statementatsch No matter how much of Oscar hater you might be. He is one of the greatest of his era which equivelates to him being an ATG. No matter how you pick his losses(some disputed ones). My eyes dont decieve me and a prime Oscar was definitly a great fighter.:bart
I've never seen a fighter take on the kind of challenges and make the kind of accomplishments that Oscar did with so many people who don't consider him great. I can't think of anybody that accomplished who pushed themselves that much and still it's as if it's either a question mark as to whether they're great or it's just a decisive no on that question. I've had moments where I've been disgusted by Oscar. Thoroughly disgusted, but I never once implied he wasn't an ATG. Not once, no matter how disgusted I've been. He was maybe two close decisions away from an entirely different view of his career and that's not fair.
I agree about the 9th. Ive watched that round a few times and De La Hoya wins it clearly, IMO. Your scorecard is identical to mines.
I'd love to see how Pac and Floyd would've done against that Oscar. Oscar, in his prime, was an incredible fighter. So fast in foot and hand
While De La Hoya moved well and jabbed and threw combinations like a demon too. He was still rigid from the waist up. Infact, it's not even up for debate actually. It's plain for all to see that he lacked head and waist movement against Trinidad. I felt that the perfect time to jump on Trinidad was around the 7th round. But he was too 'straight up' to stand in there for long periods against Trinidad. When Hopkins took it to Trinidad and mixed it up, he always bobbed and weaved while throwing and basically slipped punches while trading. De La Hoya was better against Chavez in the first fight and also against Hernandez.
i had oscar by 6 rounds in this fight , having tito winning the last three , tito always coming forward but squaring up and eating alot of jabs , i remember thinking that the quartey fight was a much harder fight , and thought oscar lost that one, so maybe this added a little balance.
Just read the thread more carefully...now I see. The thread title's declarative, not inquisitive. :!:
IMO Oscar's greatest performance was the second Mosley fight, which I felt he won clearly. Obviously you could argue De La Hoya's physical peak and/or best weights came earlier in his career (circa Chavez I), but considering the standard of comp, the situation, and the performance itself, I have Mosley II as a clear number 1. Oscar fought well against Tito and won quite comfortably, but the win is sullied a little by the infamous flight-not-fight in the closing rounds, and to be honest I always prefer a win gained by actively engaging an opponent and enforcing/imposing your superiority to a win gained by boxing on the move purposefully to win points and nick rounds. Mosley was the first person to fairly defeat Oscar, and Oscar was under pressure by the time of the second fight to (a) prove he was really an elite fighter with a big-fight temperament, and (b) prove that he had the intelligence and ability to find a winning medium between the flight-not-fight of the Trinidad fight and the forward-marching aggression of the first Mosley fight where he found himself outsmarted and outhustled. I think it all came together for Oscar that night, he fought the perfect fight against an excellent opponent, and won well. Pretty much a robbery IMO.
116-112 against Trinidad, one of the easiest fights to score ever, I cant see how the judges messed it up so badly. DLH was indeed terrific that night, that'll always be a win in my head. Mosley II I had even wider 117-111, another one he won in my head.