Dear Taylor apologists, here is another scenerio for you and more angles.

You will return later and apologize, when you realize that you have been looking through a kaleidoscope.

 

Yes it has


Khoren Gevor is a solid middleweight, but nothing special. Cory Spinks is a very good welterweight and light middleweight, but nothing special at middleweight. I would say he and Gevor would be a competitive fight - I have no pick. Kassim Ouma is around the same league as Gevor. Both have solid chins, throw a lot of punches, and aren't very big. Ouma has better stamina though.

Is there any denying that Taylor fights great opposition? Marquez, Joppy, Hopkins twice, Wright, Ouma, Spinks, and now Pavlik....this guy isn't scared to take a challenge and test himself among the best fighters out there.

 

Apologise for what?

My sarcastic comment, I'm just saying that Amsterdam has come to the point where his hate for Jermain Taylor is starting to make him sound irrational.

At the very least Jermain Taylor is a fighter who can be compettitive with anyone at middleweight. Kelly Pavlik could very well knock Taylor out, but to try and tear down Taylor's accomplishments dosen't make sense in this context.

 

Yeah, I think Spinks, being a slick, defensive southpaw can be a nightmare for just about anyone in and around his weight class. Dont get me wrong, I dont like the guys style (he is very boring when needing to press the action himself)....but he skilled, and severely underrated.

And Ouma is another fighter that poses severe matchup problems for many fighters. He has a good chin and FANTASTIC STAMINA! He is also a high output fighter, with decent enough speed.

I think both of them can beat Grevor easily.

 

Looking at it that way, Taylor and Abraham are very comparable, possibly with the edge to Abraham.

 

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Spot on. Both beat Grevor EASILLY and Spinks outboxes Abraham over 12 (Abraham would need to get lucky, which I wouldn't favour)... I'd think Abraham would UD Ouma, but NOT knock him out.

Jermain Taylor, despite the closeness of the fights, still has EASILLY the best resume at Middleweight. Add Pavlik, and there's no argument.

 

If Abraham were sincerely interested in making a credible claim to being the world's top middleweight, he should try having at least one fight outside of Germany.

 

Agreed. Still cant understand the thought process of people discreditting Taylor. Amsterdam has tried...but I cant see it.

And just to add in....Taylor WHOOPS Abraham.

 

If this is true then why dont we examine Abrahams resume. A gift of a win over Miranda, Sebastian Demers, and Khoren Gevor? How does this even come close to rivalling Taylors? Taylor beat the undisputed middleweight champion, and P4P #2 to get his belt. Then he fought a ranked P4P opponent in his first defense.The only fighter who Abraham has fought who was even ranked top ten in his dvision was Miranda. Abraham may be able to beat Taylor, but it is stupd to say he has a resume that is even close to Taylors. But i guess im just a foolish boxing fan huh?

 

It's this very line of thinking, that puts Jermain Taylor under a huge amount of pressure (I suppose, as required of a middleweight champion?).

Imagine if Taylor was to lose to Pavlik? Everyone who discredited him, would actually feel VINDICATED. atsch

Of course, if he's absolutely starched. Maybe they're right. But if it's a closeish good fight, no vincidcation from me. If he wins, well...

 

I can't wait for this fight because Amsterdam will be eating some serious crow. Kelly has one win over an overrated crude slugger and all of a sudden he's the second coming of Hagler...please. Taylor gets up for big fights and he will find Kelly and easy target he will out box him and win by UD.:deal

 

Interesting post, Amsterdam...I wonder who you think would win if Pavlik beat Taylor, the it was Abraham vs PAvlik....what then ? ( Or what IF ? )....from
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