Debating my top ten CW list

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah, keep your sarcasm.

    Spinks didn’t go from a HW champ to a journeyman over time.

    His level was proven in the rematch to Ali, and his following fight which was a 1 round stoppage loss.

    It’s not like we found out over time that Spinks wasn’t the goods.

    We IMMEDIATELY found out straight afterwards.

    If that’s your reasoning for omitting Usyk, then you need help.
     
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  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    I'll just ignore all of your embarrassing waffle.

    I said ages ago if I had to rank him right now based on what he's done, Usyk goes to my number 2 behind Holy.

    Again, remove your emotional outbursts from the situation.

    What's your top ten look like.
     
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  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Embarrassing waffle?

    I’m highlighting your bizarre reasoning.

    You can’t rate Usyk, due to what happened with Leon Spinks?

    Do you know how stupid that statement is?

    Usyk cleaned out the CW division.

    Spinks found his level directly after his win over an ancient Ali.

    Sort yourself out.
     
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  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    I'll this to you again.

    If I had to rank him right now based on what he's done I'd put Usyk number 2 behind Holy.

    I'm sure you'll embarrass yourself again with another rant so I'll say it again, just for you.

    I'd rank Usyk 2nd. Behind Holy.
     
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  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Just rank him then you fool.

    Stop with the stupid:

    “I blame Leon Spinks...”

    You left Roy Jones out of your SMW thread by bizarrely telling everybody that you could only rate guys in one division only. Apparently, that was a rule that you had to stand by.

    I then come on here and see that you’ve rated James Toney, despite ranking him 4th on that other thread.

    It’s you who’s the embarrassment.


    I’ll leave the others to debate you and your ridiculous criteria.
     
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  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    You have done another embarrassing waffle haha.

    Do you even read the posts you quote.

    I changed my mind on ranking fighters only one.

    I just said Usyk would be number 2.

    If you aren't to debate then jog on and cry over your tampon somewhere else.
     
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  7. Loudon

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    Nobody can have an objective debate with a guy who puts up obstacles which are nonsensical.

    You don’t know how to debate.

    You ruin any potentially good thread before you’ve even started it due to illogical criteria and reasoning.

    So I will gladly jog on.

    You are a JOKE.
     
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  8. lufcrazy

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    You get so emotional about boxing, in a way I admire your passion.

    It's my prerogative to change my mind if I hear a strong enough argument, that's the whole point of debates.

    No one is placing any obstacles here, place your top ten and debate like a sensible human, or take your tantrums elsewhere.
     
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  9. lufcrazy

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    Most updatedist following some of the great points made so far

    Rank First Last Best Performance
    1 Evander Holyfield Dwight Qawi
    2 Olexsandr Usyk Murat Gassiev
    3 David Haye Jean Marc Mormeck
    4 James Toney Vassiliy Jirov
    5 Dwight Qawi Leon Spinks
    6 Juan Carlos Gomez Marcelo Domingues
    7 Tomasz Adamek O'Neil Bell
    8 Steve Cunningham Marco Huck
    9 Carlos De Leon S T Gordon
    10 Denis Lebedev Lateef Kayode
     
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  10. ideafix12

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    My top 20
    1-Oleksandr Usyk
    2-Evander Holyfield
    3-David Haye
    4-James Toney
    5-Tomasz Adamek
    6.Steve Cunningham
    7-Juan Carlos Gomez
    8-Guillermo Jones
    9-Dwight Muhammad Qawi
    10-Denis Lebedev
    11-Vassily Jirov
    12-Murat Gassiev
    13-Jean Marc Mormeck
    14-Mairis Briedis
    15-Carlos De Leon jr
    16-Firat Arslan
    17-Ossie Ocassio
    18-Krzysztof Włodarczyk
    19-Johnny Nelson
    20-Grigory Drozd
     
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  11. ideafix12

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    Good
    Good top 10
     
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  12. lufcrazy

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    I like this a lot, but the steroid issues of Guillermo Jones are something I really can't condone tbh.

    Although when he was juiced up he was an absolute monster.
     
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  13. ideafix12

    ideafix12 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jones was a monster and underrated, a very difficult fight for any cw
     
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  14. It's Ovah

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    No Marco Huck? No JP Hernandez?
     
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  15. It's Ovah

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    Pot shot Gomez?
     
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