Dec 23 - Preview & Predictions (Video)

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  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    For better or worse, here is how I see them playing out. Apologies in advance for my mistake pertaining to Junior Fa.

    Cheers!

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  2. NullaLexInk

    NullaLexInk Sometimes a fella's just gotta be movin' on Full Member

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    Multiple Rummy predictions in one video? Predicting a whole damn card, even?! I see the 9-1 streak has made you a bit adventurous! :D

    I agree with pretty much all of your predictions as well, only differences are I'm figuring Bivol will win via wide points decision and Wilder via mid to late T/KO. I think Parker's chin has enough to hold up to Wilder's bombs for a bit, but ultimately it'll crack somewhere around 6-8.

    I also wish like hell the matchmaking was a bit more competitive, considering the talent for such matchups are right there. Obviously there's the disappointment in no AJ-Wilder, but I think the Bakole-Hrgovic fight not getting made was a damn shame. I believe I've also heard Zhang was intended to be Wilder's opponent but had to drop out due to some kind of injury, though that may have just been an unfounded rumor I saw. Might also be mixing it up with the proposed Zhang-Ngannou or Zhang-Parker fights that were being worked on. Or hell, could just be simple as me wishing Zhang was involved in this somehow :lol:

    But hey, that aside, this is still a pretty fun card. Not a bad way to wrap up whats been a pretty good year of boxing at all. Definitely hyped to watch this early Christmas present unfold, and in all likelihood see your record for the year nearly double :ggg
     
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  3. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Logically I think AJ will win but I think Wallin is more level headed and will take a sadistic pleasure in causing the upset. AJ has always looked beatable on a bad night and I think the Riyadh event might be one of those nights. It’s a big stage and everyone will be watching, AJ drowned when all eyes were on him during his USA debut. I think this could go the same.
     
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  4. Joy_Rones

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    All predictions are within reason, but I do hope you're wrong about some of them. Particularly I'm hoping Jo Parker KOs Wilder.
     
  5. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    That AJ prediction ..... The fight might go the distance, as well as AJ not been able to crack Wallin chin, as he have a solid one, but trying to claim that AJ somehow will get a gift decision is beyond pathetic. You know why? Cause AJ already beat Wallin twice in the amateur, and AJ is 100x time the boxer Wallin ever will be.
    AJ is not just a mindless puncher like Wilder.
    On top of that AJ not have a single win that was controversial, not a single one. I got no problem with you having guts and claim that Wallin will win, but trying to say that AJ will get a favoritism on the card is not what i'm okay with it.


    Still you can mock me for that post, but AJ either going to KO Wallin brutally or he going to outbox him clearly for 12-0 win. There will be no controversy in that fight.
     
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  6. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    :lol:

    I am not ruling out the possibility that I end the year 9-9.

    You may be correct. Bivol UD wouldn't surprise me. And I definitely could be wrong about Wilder. I wouldn't be shocked if he was losing before stopping him later.

    That's the bottom line for me. It should be a fun card, or at least parts of it should guarantee some fun.

    :thumbsup:
     
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  7. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I didn't actually say that, though.

    What I said, regarding a "best case scenario for Wallin" was:
    "Best case for Wallin he makes it close and competitive with a reasonable case as the victor, but even if that does happen, there is reason to believe that he might not get the nod."

    But for my actual prediction I stated:
    "I still maintain that AJ is skilled and talented enough that, combined with his heavy hands, he will earn a close but clear decision without any controversy. Although I wouldn’t rule out a late stoppage for AJ, either."



    In any case, I've been wrong before and will no doubt be wrong many many more times going forward. The odds of me being wrong on a few of these are almost a given (where even if I get the right winner, it does not mean the fight will play out anything like I was imagining).

    Which circling back to @NullaLexInk noting my 9-1 record this year (a total anomaly), even that is deceiving because not many of them have played out the way I was expecting - key example being Fury vs Ngannou. That fight went nothing at all like I was anticipating.
     
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  8. NullaLexInk

    NullaLexInk Sometimes a fella's just gotta be movin' on Full Member

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    Considering the Day of Reckoning is just a couple of days before Christmas, would that happening be the boxing equivalent of Santa Claus filling a stocking with coal and smacking you in the back of the head with it? :lol:

    I'm definitely leaning toward both of those scenarios, but that's not to dismiss your predictions either, hope it didn't come across that way. I don't think Bivol is incapable of stopping this guy, he just seems to prefer comfortably outpointing his opponent as opposed to going for the knockout. I don't think it comes from a lack of killer instinct or anything, more like a "why fix what ain't broken" type of mentality. That said, his last stoppage didn't really come from him looking for it, it just kinda happened. I should note, I don't really know enough about Lyndon Arthur to say if he'll be put down by accumulation when that's not what the other guy is going for, but Bivol does carry a deceptively heavy pop in those punches that just don't stop, so I'm definitely not gonna rule it out.

    As for Wilder-Parker, I'm largely basing the lateness of the prediction on Wilder's inactivity and Parker staying active and still possessing a pretty decent chin. That said, Wilder is going to be the heaviest puncher Parker has been in with since suffering his first stoppage loss, and he has seemed plenty hittable in those fights if I recall right. So I think Wilder will ultimately prevail via KO, he'll just need a bit of time to shake off the ring rust.

    This card is gonna be great, man. The main thing I love about it is that while all of the heavyweight fights have a clear favorite, an upset isn't out of the question in any of them. Miller and Dubois are both heavy handed and hittable guys. Makhmudov is a very heavy handed guy going against a somewhat awkward style in Kabayel. Sanchez has shown vulnerability against a journeyman not known for big power, so even with inactivity and an apparent lack of huge knockout power, you can't rule out Junior Fa's chances. Wilder is facing a pretty good boxer who has trained with the only man to beat him and has a proven chin, easily making him Wilder's second or third best name. Anthony Joshua is fighting a guy with a similar style to the man who handed him his two decision losses, and while Wallin may not be as talented as that man, this is the same guy who gave one of the top two guys a very hard night for a decent chunk of that fight.

    Only one kinda disappointing is Hrgovic-De Mori, where I just can't see an upset happening now that I've taken some time to look into De Mori. Opetaia-Zorro and Bivol-Arthur also look to be one sided, given the wide gap in talent as you pointed out. While I can't say an upset is out of the question, given my limited experience seeing the challengers, I do know that upsetting Bivol or Opetaia is a very tall order.

    But hey, if a few one sided bouts are the worst thing about this card, I think we got it pretty good. Besides, you never know with this sport. Nobody thought Fury-Ngannou was gonna be competitive and look how that went. All I know is, this card has some promising matchups, and it comes after a couple of weeks of interesting fights and just a few days before seeing one of the current greats fighting for undisputed in a second weight class just after doing it in another a year ago. I'd say us boxing fans got a pretty good holiday season ahead :ggg

    Jesus, I'm wordy. That ended up being way longer than I thought it would.

    Oh well. **** it, I love this sport. I ain't ashamed :lol:
     
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  9. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    AJ clearly got favoritism from one of the judges in the second Usyk fight.
     
  10. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thanks for the video. I agree with your picks but not with all the predicted rounds. I think Parker lasts longer than two rounds vs. Wilder. I also believe Hrgovics tendency to look uninterested in fights will enable DeMori to last 4-5 rounds.
     
  11. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yeah and still lost, right? I says in any of his wins. There is not a single fight AJ won where you can say he was saved by the judges. And until he get ones(i hope it never happen) we should not trying to suggest he will win this or that fight by a gift decision.
     
  12. anjawnaymiz

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    I’m not sold on makhmudov, kabayal is definitely in with a chance of an upset imo and I see miller having success against Dubois.

    Aj, wilder, sanchez and hrgy bear all win
     
  13. The Long Count

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    Excellent card. And I hope all your predictions come true except Wilder, although I do suspect he takes Parker out early. Reminds me of the best card since night of the heavyweights back in 1995
     
  14. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    The real win are these short notice fights
    Sauds Making up for us waiting 12 months for them to front half a bajillion dollars to Big Tys coke fund and Usyks zelensky mansions and yacht fund.
     
  15. Rumsfeld

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