Decade v Decade - 20s v 50s

Rocky Marciano KO 12 Dempsey
Tunney UD Moore
Greb SD Robinson
Walker w15 Galivan
Benny Leonard KO 13 Jimmy Carter
Sandy Saddler SD Johnny Dundee
Pete Herman w15 Jimmy Carruthers
Jimmy Wilde UD 15 Pasquale Perez

 

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Marciano KO11 Dempsey
Tunney UD15 Moore
Greb UD15 Robinson - pure speculation, don´t know if I would include this one.
Gavilan UD15 Walker - tough, tough one. Could go either way. I settle for Gavilan though.
Leonard UD15 Carter

don´t know enough about Hermann, Dundee, Carruthers or Perez to jusdge the other fights.

 

My teams (20s on left)

Dempsey vs Marciano
Tunney vs Moore
Greb vs Robinson
Walker vs Gavilan
Leonard vs Carter
Dundee vs Saddler
Herman vs Carruthers
Wilde vs Perez



Sorry to be a pain Boilermaker but I'm changing mine again

 

Your right, sub in Moore instead. And that is a Tunney win IMO

Both guys relied on speed and quick bursts of punches, I think Perez is more consistent with his workrate and busier. Both guys hit hard but both guys have iron chins.

Dont know too much on Walker but he was aggresive and IMO Gavilan will be landing the harder punches in the tradesa and being the ring general.

He was still a top fight early 1950 IMO. I thought the Carruthers pick was good as he looks quality but I'll choose Ortiz.

 

Marciano ko's Dempsey

Tunney edges Moore on points

Greb edges Robinson (tough, tough call--Greb naturally bigger and did better against bigger men, but Robby not at his best at middle)

Gavilan over Walker (Walker was not at his best as a welter)

Leonard over Joe Brown

Saddler over Dundee

Herman over Carruthers

Perez over Wilde (Wilde was past his best in the twenties)


*The Robinson-Greb matchup is really a toss-up, but I took a stand.

**If I am the manager of the fifties, I might throw Fullmer against Greb if I thought Robinson couldn't handle him and fight Robinson as a welterweight. No way I think the fifties lose in both divisions when Robinson is the best welter ever. Still I think what happened in 1926 makes it unlikely Walker beats Gavilan at 147.

***I took Leonard over Brown, but Carlos Ortiz and Duilio Loi would be very formidable substitutes at this weight, and then there is the erratic but dangerous Carter. The fifties have more depth at lightweight I think, but I can't go against Leonard.

****I took Perez over Wilde for two reasons. I question if Wilde was at his best in the twenties, and Perez simply has the better record, never losing until he was 33 and proving himself better than every opponent up to 34. In comparision, Wilde suffered major defeats in his twenties and was finished at 31.

 

20's

Dempsey
Tunney
Greb
Walker
Leonard
Herman
Wilde


50's
Saddler

7 -1 to the 20's.

So much for the advancement of technique.

 

My choices exactly, down to the last man.:thumbsup

 

I like Archie Moore over Gene Tunney. I don't know why people are so quick to pick tunney. Tunney was outboxed by a teenage version of tommy loughran. tunney was fast, but archie was clever and powerful. Archie had a long left jab to help fight off tunney from a distance. most of the men tunney faced did not possess that long left jab. People forget in the early 1950s, archie could really put up a high workrate. He could keep up with tunney's pace. I see him laying traps for tunney and taking advtantage of tunney's low gaurd by marking him with precise accurat pinpoint shots.

 

All are close fights that can be argued either way...

I like

Dempsey
Moore
Greb
Gavilan
Leonard
Saddler
Herman
Wilde

 

Dempsey
Tunney
Greb
Walker
Leonard
Saddler
Herman
Wilde