Decade v Decade - 20s v 50s

Not sure if you're being sarcastic.

As for Boilermaker... well it's pretty obvious. There's basically zero real film of him. Yes we have record and testimony but no real great idea of not only how he looks but he we could imagine him operating against an ATG like Robinson. The best we have is a record to know how he did against other great fighters, many that are also not on film. So not only is the lack of film a problem, but the idea of how well does against a certain style. Sugar Ray Robinson could move very well, as did Tunney who troubled Greb. Greb doesn't hit particularly hard, and I don't he could ever out-finesse out-speed and punch a great mover and puncher like Robinson. SRR is basically the perfect fighter. Greb is the perfect fighter only in idea. This type of prediction makes the speculative in fantasy fights (And transporting fighters of different times with different conditions already) insanely difficult and basically just a subjective guess.

SRR is not only the best fighter but the best on film and we don't even have a lot of his prime. From what I've seen of Greb, to think he could beat Robinson suggests some strange weird sense of confident based largely on legend, record, and mythology. The footage of him looks very ridiculous... and picturing that man beating SRR even at MW just amuses me. Greb is get and an ATG but he's not a H2H monster against this kind of level.

 

I might be wrong, but wasn't it five to three, with Marciano, Gavilan, and Saddler winning for the fifties. The very close Wilde win over Perez is all that prevented a tie.

 

What have YOU seen of Harry Greb that amuses you.? A clip of an original I have showing Harry Greb in 1925 sparring for the camera,with the 50ish Pil Jack Q'Brien, who owned the gym in NY..How would you spar with an older man for the newfangled camera? Would you hurt the old man ? Of course not...But look at the real Greb playing handball....Notice hius fast feet bouncing to and fro,while waiting for the ball to arrive..He could and did this for fifteen rounds in a 300 fight career with fighters who , yes walked like you or I..
If you were amused by Greb fooling around in training, you would have been hilarious if you saw only one film of Ray Robinson,in 1955 getting
thrashed by a journeyman Ralph tiger Jones !You would say to yourself
"that Robinson was overated ",and I'm sure that would amuse you also...

 

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vs Pascual perez.....UD
Cannon Ball Eddie Martin vs

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Kid Kaplan vs

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vs Jimmy Carter...UD
Mickey Walker vs

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vs Archie Moore...UD

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....KO 13

 

Not sure why Pete Herman made the inital list as he lost his title in 1919 and was nothing but a shell by mid 1920...6 months of work don't make the list for me...even more surprising is that a washed up Herman is dominating Carruthers..

personally I like Villa's body of work in the 20's better than Wilde's as well