Decade v Decade Match 3 - 1930s v 1900s

1900's
Johnson[if Jeffries, Louis]
Fitz [if prime] [if the Fitz of Gardner fight, Lewis]
Ketchel
Walcott
Gans
Can't really decide the feathers, McGovern?
Brown

 

my teams (1900s on left) (winner in bold)

Jeffries vs Louis
Fitzsimmons vs Lewis
Ketchel vs Steele
Walcott vs Ross
Gans vs Canzoneri
McGovern vs Armstrong
McGovern vs Brown

 

Louis vs Johnson - Louis would murder Johnson. I like Johnson but when he tries to clinch Louis would land some of his short punches and hurt him. Once he is hurt, it´s over.

Lewis vs Fitzsimmons - Lewis was mobile enough to outbox Fitz but would fall for one of Fitz´s traps and get KOed.

Zale vs Ketchel - both had great chins and were tremendous punchers, still I think it goes to the cards, since Zale is more refined ...

Ross vs Walcott - Ross was never stopped and as good as Walcott was, he could be outboxed.

Canzoneri vs Gans - tough one. Gans wasn´t called the old master for nothing. I still pick Canzi but only because hes one of my favs. 50/50 I think.

Armstrong vs McGovern

Panama Al Brown vs Frankie Neil - not educated enough on either one.

 

I honestly dont know enough about Langford to make a judgement. I will be back to explain my picks later, I have to do stuff right now.

 

Yes ,the 1900 Fitz beats Lewis,but the one who held the LHVY title does not.

 

1. Louis over Johnson (or Jeffries)---Johnson's weak jaw troubles me. Jeff, I think, is made to order for Louis. It is just a matter of how much he could take, sort of like Baer.

2. Langford over Lewis (I will change my own pick--I should have been a political hack)

3. Yarosz over Ketchel (I went with Steele as the consensus pick-not mine. I am just not as big as some on Ketchel.)

4. Ross over Walcott (more consistent, and great chin)

5. Gans over Canzoneri (I have always been impressed with Gans on film more than any of his contemporaries)

6. Armstrong over McGovern

7. Brown over Neil (Brown just seems to have been the better fighter off the records)

 

How weak do you think Johnson's jaw was?
He was stopped 7 times, 4 times after the age of 48,once when 37,once by Choynsky and once by Klondike when he was 21.

 

Good point, but he seems to have been knocked down and hurt quite often, by Griffin for example. I still like Louis, although Johnson has I think a much better shot at Louis than Jeffries does because of styles, if nothing else. Jeffries seems made for Louis.

 

Zale lost an awful lot in the 1930s. I can't see zale ever being able to survive a ******* with Ketchel. He better box, or he gets knocked out. I think there were better middles of the 1930s than Zale, Freddie Steel in particular.

 

Why not? Your all about resumes arn't you? The man cleaned out his era at middleweight defeating great fighters in the process(Twin Sullivan, Billy Papke), knocked out a great lightheavyweight(OBrien), fought the bigger prime sam langford 6 close rounds, and even floored a prime jack johnson. Ketchel feared no one and proved himself beyond doubt one of the hardest hitters who ever lived. Ketchel accomplished more by his 24th birthday than most did in their entire careers!

 

Louis, tough fight for him though.
More comfortable with a '91 version, but Fitzsimmons
Ketchel
Ross, wait Walcott, no Ross, wait.
Toss-up, Gans
Another tough one, Armstrong
Brown

 

I like john henry lewis over fitz