"Decent fundamentals" of Willie Driver - a fighter better than Sam Langford

Just watched Langford vs. Flynn. It was almost unwatchable. It was like watching two Greco Roman wrestlers having a boxing match. The problem is that they weren't good Greco Roman wrestlers and they weren't good boxers either. If Driver, Langford, Mosco, and Flynn could fight each other, Mosco would beat all of them, Flynn would lose to all of them and Driver and Langford would be an interesting fight. Driver doesn't square up as much and he throws shorter punches than Langford, plus he is busier so I'd favor him. Mosco had won the NY and Florida Golden Gloves so he had faced the best competition, plus he was bigger and stronger than the rest of them so Driver was in with the best fighter of the four. https://www.*******.com/tony-mosco-story-heavyweight-who-went-viral--117164

Langford's video shows a short fighter who squares up a lot and throws wide punches from the outside. Lucky for him, the guy he was fighting was even worse, he spent most of the fight leaning forward from the waist holding on. For me, video tells the story, I couldn't care less who is in the HOF and who is considered an ATG by fans and writers. The truth is that Langford isn't impressive at all and the guy he was fighting was terrible. The video is the story, writer reports and old stories mean nothing. EDIT - "Boxing Historians", whatever they are, and people who make Youtube highlight videos, mean even less.

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he wouldnt make it past jeannette and mcvea, much less Langford and Wills

god forbid he fight a prime Jack Johnson

 

Pat falls flat on his face AGAIN!

Unproven Wilder is a greater fighter than George Foreman. All current champions are greater fighters than past champions and now THIS.

Is anyone more clueless?

 

Willie Driver pro record

Wins. 7
Losses. 31 (21 by KO)

He never beat an opponent with more than ONE pro victory.

Name one expert who calls Willie Driver the greatest fighter who ever lived?

You do realize there are 100 years of experts who ranked and do rank Sam Langford as one of the pfp greatest fighters ever to live?

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"Pat M" is a sophisticated troll act.
Not be taken too seriously.

 

I've seen Anthony Mosco v "JImmy Smith" as well, that's a real laugh.
I wonder if his other fight (v "Daniel Best") is out there too ..... ?

 

Interesting thread ..

 

I wonder if he's related to Minnie.

 

it makes people who don't know what they are looking at, like you two, and who rely on what Monte Cox or Bert Sugar tell them, uncomfortable when somebody points out the obvious. I don't care what "boxing historians", writers, Youtube highlight people, etc. have to say about boxing. They typically don't have a clue.

1910 Langford is not a guy who could compete today, I never claimed Driver (7-31) was great or even good, but he is as good or better than 1910 Langford. If you would make arguments like, "if Langford had been born in 1990 and learned to fight today, he had the potential to be a good boxer", that would be reasonable. But to take a man from 1910 who in video stands square and throws wide punches while fighting against a guy who can't fight at all, and compare him to the best modern fighters is ridiculous. 1910 Langford as he was, would be cannon fodder fighting against modern fighters.

 

Langford gave him a hiding there