Decrepit 40 Year Old Manny Pacquiao Is Currently Perhaps The Best Welterweight On The Planet.

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  1. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Agree with most of that. Bradley didn't school Marquez though he ran from him
     
  2. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Crawford definitely outpoints him at this stage.

    Spence on the other hand is a good fight Manny can possibly win.
     
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  3. BoyBato

    BoyBato Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Only craw and spence beat him decisively but i can't help but see pac putting a margarito on spence as unlikely as it is. Mikey,thurman and porter are 50-50. Danny gets beat.
     
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  4. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He beats Mikey easily, too basic and slow for him. Thurman is dangerous because of his power and porter will set the pace old man Pac may not keep up with.

    Spence is 50/50 I can see Pac dancing around him but Spence is a bad dude, and a big dude obviously much more skilled than Margarito. Pac also don’t have the same legs to get out.

    Crawford is too much at this stage, can’t picture Pac beating him.
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    We have to agree to disagree here.:D Granted, I did predict a Bradley schooling, so maybe I am a tad bit biased in my description.
     
  6. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No he isn't.

    Perspective my friend. He is an outstanding fighter FOR a 40 year old. So was Stevenson, but Stevenson was in with someone who actually wanted to win...and look what happened to him.

    The truth is that Manny did a great job for his age last night, but he also spent the first five rounds swinging at air against a 5-6 guy who was never known for his defense. And that's IF the fight was legit ( I was all ready to write Broner off as a game-quitter, like Tyson at the end of his career, then he started doing all that WWE **** at the end, so who knows).

    In the last couple of years he has been robbed against a journeyman he should have stopped, and beaten two guys who are known as much for quitting as anything else. The other three champs would incinerate him.
     
  7. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Couldnt disagree more. In my view youre overrating current Pac. Even calling Porter 'food' for current Pac, a Pac who couldnt make food out of someone like Horn (who Crawford treated accordingly), is going to make food out of Porter, and beat Crawford, suggests to me youre overrating Pac.

    But to each their own. Maybe Im wrong. Maybe we will get a chance to see. No reason one or two of those fights cant still happen.
     
  8. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    How about Pac against Horn in a neutral venue with a fair ref and judges? He'd beat the breaks off him and leave no doubt the 2nd time around.
     
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  9. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    I will definitely make it a point to rewatch the Brook fight when I get a chance.

    But as of now, no I simply dont see a Pac win as very probable, against Spence.

    I think Spence loses the first couple rounds to Pacs dynamics and athleticism (even a 40 year old pac), but slowly starts to find his range, slowly starts to apply effective pressure, and starts to wear pac down in the later rounds to either win a deserved UD or even a late stoppage.

    But thats just my view man. I just think Spences size and strength would really start to take its toll on Pac and would take control as the fight went on.

    For the record Id be rooting for Pac in all these matchups.
     
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  10. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    :ohno
     
  11. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I see nothing all that special with Spence, never have, although the size would be a huge factor, and even Margarito who wasn't quite as adept at cutting off the ring as Spence was able to hurt Manny to the body. So realistically, I lean Spence for that and only that reason.
     
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  12. Bollywooden

    Bollywooden Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Horn was on queer street ready to go, people forget that. Pac let him live. Porter would keep coming forward and get lit up. Pac spars with Porter, nothing new there for Pac.

    I have never rated Crawford, he was hurt by Gamboa, lost every round to Dulorme before the ko, and one-leg Benevidez Jr gave him way too much troube. If Top Rank matchmakers thought Crawford would beat Pac, they'd have made the fight long ago.
     
  13. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I wouldn't want to see Pac in with guys like Crawford or Spence or even Thurman. Pac is in his 40's he beat Broner but Broner always loses when he steps up, while Pac's win was a good one I couldn't help but see how much Pac has declined. Prime Pac at welter would of stopped Broner inside 8 rounds. No way would prime Pac let a hurt Broner off the hook like he did in the 7th round, prime Pac would of kept on throwing and at the very least taken him out in the next round but current Pac didn't have the engine to do so.

    Plus now there are stories he's suffered a possible detached retina after the Broner fight so we might not see Pac fight again.
     
  14. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I wouldn't argue with anyone if they said he was the greatest fighter of all time, serious, peds or not, they all cheat or a high percentage do if you apply common sense. Truly a fantastic fighter and role model, a ****ing monster slayer prime ! Prime Pac UD's Mayweather
     
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  15. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    :deal:
     
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