Deepest junior/super weight class historically?

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Deepest junior / super weight class

  1. Super middleweight

    22.2%
  2. Junior middleweight / Super welterweight

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  3. Junior welterweight / Super lightweight

    55.6%
  4. Junior lightweight / Super featherweight

    22.2%
  5. Junior featherweight / Super bantamweight

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  6. Junior bantamweight / Super flyweight

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  7. Junior flyweight

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  1. Jel

    Jel Reserving the right to be inconsistent Full Member

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    Which do you think is the deepest of the junior and super weight classes historically based on the number of quality fighters who campaigned there?

    Arguably a couple of divisions have a head start as they were inaugurated in the 1930s but that doesn’t automatically mean they are deeper than more recent weight classes.

    Try and give a reason for your choice as well.
     
  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

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    I think it's 140, and I don't think it's close in the slightest. You've pretty much just given every elite between 135 & 147 (probably the two best divisions) a pitstop, and so naturally have a swathe of talent passing through. The guys who made their home there are unbelievable too, as you'd expect. It's a perfect case of guys being too big for 135 but too small for 147 having a place to call home, and with the talent that passes through, you end up with some really strong guys. Also, you have Jose Napoles....

    122 is my favourite, though. Crazy amount of wars happened there, and the list of incredibly entertaining fighters is mad.
     
  3. Jel

    Jel Reserving the right to be inconsistent Full Member

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    Cheers, George. I’m interested to see if anyone thinks it’s not junior welter but I would agree. I also agree that junior feather fight for fight is the most entertaining (although junior lightweight gives it a decent run for its money).
     
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  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

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    It does.

    I also love super flyweight, and it's been the best division in today's game for a good few years now.
     
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  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My favorite was the newest Super division ... Super Middleweight

    Featured champs like:
    • Sugar Ray Leonard
    • Thomas Hearns
    • Joe Calzaghe
    • Roy Jones
    • James Toney
    • Andre Ward
    • Canelo Alvarez
    • Chris Eubank
    • Nigel Benn
    • Michael Nunn
    • Iran Barkley
    • Carl Froch
    • Badou Jack
    • Mikkel Kessler
    • Felix Sturm
    • Arthur Abraham
    • Frankie Liles
    • Steve Collins
    • Markus Beyer
    • Danny Green
    • Sven Ottke
    • Billy Joe Saunders
    • Robin Reid
    • Richie Woodhall
    • Jeff Lacy
    • Lucian Bute
    • In Chul Baek
    • James DeGale

    Fighters who tried but failed to win a title there:
    • Jermain Taylor
    • Gerald McClellan
    • Michael Watson
    • Chad Dawson
    • Glen Johnson
    • Frank Tate
    • Jean Pascal
     
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  6. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I'm a fan of the Supermiddle s myself. It was the late 80 s early 90 s fights that sparked my interest. Loved the Benn, Eubank, Watson, Collins era.
    Add in Toney, Nunn, Barkley, Jones, Calzaghe etc.
     
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  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    No cruiserweight? They been doing the business the last 15 years.

    I love 168lbs. I think it's 168lbs. If you start including guys that fought in it when it was a no-man's land down the years, it's defo 168lbs!
     
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  8. Jel

    Jel Reserving the right to be inconsistent Full Member

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    No, just defined ‘junior’ or ‘super’ divisions, although you could consider Cruiserweight as ‘Junior Heavyweight’, but nobody calls it that. Didn’t include Strawweight either.
     
  9. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tho not the deepest Junior Middle still featured some decent fighters -

    Hearns peak
    McCallum peak
    Duran
    Mugabi
    Ayala
    Norris
    Jackson
    SRL
    Griffith
    Oscar
    Mosley
    Benvenuti
    Wright
    Kalule
    Mayweather
    Canelo
    Benitez
    Moore
    Curry
    Brown
    Tito
     
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