Defeating the Greatest Opposition of All Time (Top 12)

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  1. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol: another one I wish BA were around for reference.

    My dude, I did like every HW from the 40s, 50s, and 20-teens to prove to some guy what went by proudlunatic that today's fighters don't have better w/l ratios they just have smaller careers.

    I'll dig around my PC if yer interested in the stats. If I do, all the math would be with them.
     
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  2. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    On paper 100% primates, unless you believe in the Shining, photonic & non-photonic forms existing among us...
     
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  3. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    James Jeffries is the only guy from the old timers to make the list, mainly due to retirement after Jack Johnson. The rest did a lot of fights & fought guys with lots of losses between big fights. They had to make a living & fight for the crowds, because boxing was a primary form of entertainment for the peasants then, now boxing became a very high skill-high pay sport, good evolution for the boxers & handlers, the peasants need much more entertainment to keep up with the cultural evolution.
     
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  4. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh, you've done all of boxing? Would you mind releasing all the ratios you have?
     
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  5. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I did the ratios for all the champions, going through the contenders to make sure I didn't miss any. In general the highest ratio are obviously the champions. Will post a Top 15, 20, 25..etc list once I double check it, from the old timers I am 100% James Jeffries is the only champion with a very high opposition ratio. The modern era has more champions so it gets thicker & closer after the top 25
     
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  6. GlaukosTheHammer

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    Cool bud, thanks for doing the leg work for us. Very interesting thread, and I look forward to it's growth.
     
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  7. Nay_Sayer

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    Stupid...
     
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  8. MoJoGoodie

    MoJoGoodie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    how about fighters with at least ten tittle fights and 30 fights?
     
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  9. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Would be more interesting if you also penalized the W-L records from those they lost to.
     
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  10. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Wait? Did I misunderstand? Does Jeffries loss to Johnson count against him in some way?
     
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  11. Rumsfeld

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    Also, are you counting the final W-L records? Or the W-L records at the time they defeated these fighters?
     
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  12. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Counting W-L at the time
     
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  13. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No I didn't count the losses, just the 19 wins
     
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  14. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I always enjoy these type of things, based on equations, and raw numbers. A Herculean task for sure, so thanks for sharing and taking the time.

    :thumbsup:
     
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  15. Rumsfeld

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    Might be cool to see what happens if you subtract the combined W's from guys they lost to, and added in the combined losses. Or something along those lines. But that's easy for me to say! :lol:

    Although reading your post immediately prior to some enlightened inhaling, you inspired an idea in me to tweak one of my old attempts at a formula (non-ratio based, in this case).
     
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