Defenders of Defensive Fighters, The Lovers Of The Sweet Science... Are They Posers And Snobs?

I didn't bother reading all of that. I myself, like all types of fighters. Furthermore, Action fighter and sweet scientist are not necessarily mutually exclusive. There are all types of ways to display a high level of technical brilliance in the ring. The clash of styles is what makes the sport so interesting. It's also a necessity to have varying styles. That will never go away.

 

i didn't read it either. triple G is both. so was Duran, and many others. dancing around, running and jabbing isn't a sweet science.

 

Sweet scientists mostly but I definitely appreciate both.

 

Ward- top fighter but a very dirty fighter headbutts and clinches more than any other fighter
Whitaker- I would class him as a sweet science fighter
Toney- sweet science fighter too great fighter
Charlo's-very overrated and won't become world champions, shouldn't be mentioned in the class as these guys

Rigondeaux-a pure boxer is amazing
Lara- a pure boxer too but runs too much and doesn't try to dominate
Vasquez-very good boxer but it's a stretch to say his a sweet science fighter

Crawford- wasn't proven much yet, beat burns(well past his best on a bad slide) ,Gamboa(beat a blown up 122pounder who basically said **** defense)

Too lump all these fighters together is ridiculous

 

Reality of the matter is most so called "fans" like to witness a lot of action even if it lacks in technicality and skill, sad but true.

 

When you throw all them fighters together then people don't know what your point is because most of them aren't sweet science fighters

You should have just picked rigo,Toney,Whitaker that's it

 

Do people honestly find Floyd boring? Cotto, Ortiz, Maidana were all decent fights.

One reason people might find these "boxers" boring is because they dominate, people want to see competitive fights not 12-0 decisions.

I can appreciate all styles from sluggers to brawlers to boxers. Hopkins recent fights haven't been barn burnings but watching him pick these guys apart is impressive.

You're post reminds of the movie "There Will Be Blood". Many people said it was boring and others responded with "it's because you need to be smart to understand, go back to watching Transformers.

 

The problem with those who claim to prefer the "sweet science" is that most of them can't seem to distinguish running from actual boxing and automatically assume that if someone is running around the ring then he must be applying a heavy dose of "sweet science".

 

i am glad you made this thread and saved me the time of starting my own. i will say that over the years...fans have been consistently dumbed down by hbo/lampley/merchant. you don't even know what you're watching because you're so programmed by what they say. their skewed view of what boxing is supposed to be is so off it's pathetic. the gatti list is what leads to guys like mago being in a coma.

i cringe at the thought of what commentary might have sounded like if merchant or lampley covered some of the greats of the past like pep, robinson or ali. the thing fans fail to realize is that it takes a lot to be a masterful boxer. trust me, if more fighters could fight like floyd or rigondeaux...they would. the reason guys stay in the pocket is because they have limited abilities, limited teachers and pretty much have no choice. the caliber of fighters/trainers has gone down significantly over the years because we've been force fed face first brawlers. the all time classic match up is the bull vs the matador. that's what makes boxing great in my eyes.

i'm in the gym 6 days a week and have been for several years of my life...probably longer than most of u have been alive. the thing i know about boxing is that this is NOT a game. u can seriously have your brains scrambled trying to be rocky in the ring. that **** is for the movies. once them brain cells are gone...that's it. they don't mysteriously come back. i've seen many kids come into to the gym with all their wits and faculties leave with slurred speech, stammering with mush mouth. this **** is real. believe me when i say...the money they pay these guys is not enough for the sacrifices they make. it's always the cowards who've never fought a single day in their lives criticizing a fighter for "running" or being "scared" or some other bull****. it's like mike tyson said...."you wouldn't last a day in my world you fcukin ******!" and that's the truth.

 

when a fighter cannot cut the ring on another using lateral movement...who's fault is that?

 

Good post. Its like the guy who stops supporting his fav obscure group because other people know them now. It's pathetic. Same with boxing, guys big up fighters like Lara to look like they understand the sport better or have some deeper understanding. No one in their right mind could like that display, after round three he straight up ran. If they think that's exciting I question their life experiences.

 

Show me on guy who can cut the ring off on a guy who ran like Lara.