Defensive specialists with top end power

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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  2. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    James Toney.

    Duran while not being a defensive fighter had one of the best defenses ever and he was a serious puncher dont know if he qualifies cause he wasnt a defensive minded fighter if he does then maybe a guy like Tyson does too.
     
  3. doug.ie

    doug.ie 'Classic Boxing Society' Full Member

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    only from what ihave read on him, i'll guess elbows mc fadden.....he started the crossarm defence that archie moore / foreman / norton used...and he had power, first man to knock out joe gans
     
  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Floyd at 130.

    Jones Jr.

    Wlad is a good call.

    The Tai guy that Flea showed certainly qualifies.

    Not sure what to make of Pea's power.
     
  5. lefthook89

    lefthook89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    klitschko brothers, james toney, and RJJ come to mind. its kind of hard to be a big puncher AND defensive minded at the same time. because being a smooth operator or a hellacious KO specialist require unique mindsets.
     
  6. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Floyd had solid power at 130, more hurting fighters with accuracy and placement still, though.

    Hardly ever "top end".I'm not sure i'd say 130\135 Mayweather hit any harder than the likes of Buchanan and Happy Lora.

    archie Moore might be one of the closest here, but he was hurt and dropped so many times it makes me reluctant to mention him.Definitely an excellent punch slipper and trap setter with great power though.

    I think there are fighters who were great(or close to it) both offensively and defensively at certain points in their careers.That's not quite the same thing though.
     
  7. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Flea I didn't have time to watch that **** so here's Joe Gans parrying a punch while simultaneously delivering the knockout blow. At 8:20.

    [ame]http://youtube.com/watch?v=ML5WLvrc0P8[/ame]
     
  8. louis3749

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    Could Benny Leonard qualify? He was a terrific 'defensive wizard', as far as punching power, he wasn't a one punch k.o. artist, but many opponents said they were surprised by his power. More of a stinging, sharp hitter, but could finish a fight if he had an opponent hurt.
     
  9. Flea Man

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    Yeah, 'Red, Gans is an ace choice.
     
  10. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Surprised Miguel Lora hasnt been mentioned
     
  11. Flea Man

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    He has. And lora has said he's not quite on Samart's level for power :yep
     
  12. knockout artist

    knockout artist Boxing Addict banned

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  13. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Already said that.