Deficiencies in striking of many mma fighters

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  1. Wilsonbox

    Wilsonbox New Member Full Member

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    Bj Penn getting knocked out by a drunk


    Ray Mercer beating former champion Tim Sylvia in 9 seconds, and other examples of former mma champions






    most mma fighters have no punch or technique or jaw
     
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  2. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Great points! It's well known that these MMA clowns can neither take a punch nor throw one.

    In looking at this, one can only come to one conclusion, boxing is just better than this trash pseudo sport, period.
     
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  3. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    BJ Penn literally just gave the guy a free shot. And he was drunk too. What point does that prove?
     
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  4. Wilsonbox

    Wilsonbox New Member Full Member

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    that he has no jaw, boxers are on another level. Do you think Canelo or GGG would be knocked out by a drunk?
     
  5. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    If GGG was drunk, old, shot to pieces, and gave a much heavier guy a free shot without even bracing for it, do I think he could be KO'd? Sure.
     
  6. Wilsonbox

    Wilsonbox New Member Full Member

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    it could happen who knows, I don't think they would even knock golovkin out like that
     
  7. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    Is this a version of advanced trolling, just putting the work in; or do you actually think you're on to something?

    Do you remember Kimbo's first MMA fight against Ray Mercer? Mercer won Olympic gold as a boxer, held an alright belt and challenged for legitimate world titles. Kimbo had some backyard fights with 6, or 10+/-, no bodies.
    Kimbo did this to Mercer in cage...


    Do you remember when a 47 year old Couture dominated James Toney?


    Do you remember any boxer having success in MMA aside from Sylvia's win over Mercer?
     
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  8. Wilsonbox

    Wilsonbox New Member Full Member

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    They beat the boxers with submissions, that is not in discussion, the title of the topic says striking, one of very difficult mma to beat one of boxing without hugging.
    On the other hand Ray mercer and james toney were already, old and out of shape in those fights, mercer of 49 years and fat, even so he knocked out Tim Sylvia in 9 seconds, also in mma there are many rules in favor of grappling, especially in the UFC, in a real fight you could rebuke the one who hugs with elbows on the neck, or with a knee.
    That said, I do not question the superiority of mma fighters in grappling, my theme was striking,however I think that muay thai experts generally are superior in striking, but it depends on each person.
     
  9. Wilsonbox

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    very few boxers have entered mma, I think because of the economic issue but there was Holly Holm.
    Ngannou ang Connor started like a amateur boxers.
    If you were Dana, would you let a boxers come to beat your boys and discredit your company? I see a 40% probability of an elite boxer in the octagon, taking into account that his blows are much stronger.
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  10. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    :shakehead::shakehead::shakehead:
    My quote, you were responding to, before you omitted most of it:nonono... then changed your condensed version of it to Spanish...
    No male boxer has ever had success in the UFC. None.
    You mentioned Holly Holm. Holm had great success in the UFC after 4 years of MMA training. She was then ko'd by someone with no formal boxing history.
     
  11. SheenLantern

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    Bruh

    Ray Mercer lost to Kimbo Slice and Paulie Malignaggi lost to Artem Lobov, two world champion boxers losing to meme MMA fighters.
     
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  12. Wilsonbox

    Wilsonbox New Member Full Member

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    I was only talking about the striking, and I have to give Lobov credit because if I beat Paulie, I think the boxers who have the least possibilities in mma are the cotton fists and very technical ones like Mayweather, Paulie, Billy Joe, Tevin Farmer, Andrade and all those who fight like this. But usually boxers are much better at striking.
     
  13. Wilsonbox

    Wilsonbox New Member Full Member

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    Ngannou wins all his fights practically only boxing and he´s the king in UFC
     
  14. SheenLantern

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    If Francis' only skill was boxing, Stipe would have taken him down and submitted him inside of 30 seconds. Francis is a nightmare to take down and he's trained for years with world class wrestlers to develop that skill.
     
  15. Wilsonbox

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    It is not his only ability but the weapon he uses the most, basically with boxing and takedown defense.