Define the word "Shot" at Championship Level

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  1. TG1

    TG1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Shot to me means that a fighter can no longer close the gap effectively or time counters. Fighters operate in split seconds and when the timing goes things fall apart.

    The fighter also becomes more susceptible to being damaged and his punch resistance falls to ****. He is easy prey for great fighters and susceptible to ordinary ones.

    Someone just referred to De La Hoya as shot against Mayweather. Oscar was 34 years of age, finely tuned and fighting at his optimum weight class. He fought extremely well in that fight despite dropping the decision. Are there grounds to say he was shot? AND if he was, what the **** would you call the Oscar who fought Manny?

    Examples of shot:

    Louis vs. Marciano
    Ali vs. Spinks (I won't even count anything after that)
    Leonard vs. Norris
    Vargas vs. Mosley II
    Jones vs. Tarver III
    Gatti vs. Gomez

    I could go on but you get the point.


    Thoughts!
     
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  2. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Shot = less than 70% of prime skills.

    Less reflexes, less speed, less stamina.
     
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  3. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    Castillo-Hatton
     
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  4. TG1

    TG1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Opinion or is that an average of scientific fact?
     
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  5. ImElvis666

    ImElvis666 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    By ESB standards, anyone who loses a fight is immediately shot.
     
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  6. gooners!!

    gooners!! Boxing Junkie banned

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    Poor balance is the biggest indicator imo, also, just a general fragile look, Rahman vs Wlad( fragile), Morales vs Raheem(Balance)
     
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  7. TG1

    TG1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    LOL That's the reason I brought in the thread dude. That's literally the way it f*ckin feels:lol:
     
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  8. goblin 2

    goblin 2 Blue Goblin Alliance Full Member

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    Shot

    1.To be past prime..not having the physical skills u once had..

    ex-Manny Pacquiao's Opponents..

    sentence- Manny pacquiao is a steroid abuser who only fights shot fighters..
     
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  9. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    My personal opinion.

    When a dude gets tired, loses his legs, has less reflexes.... that's when he is shot to me.
     
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  10. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Oscar in his last fight. Was sad to see the biggest star in boxing go out like that.
     
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  11. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Who hasn't gone out like that???

    Marciano and calzaghe?? out of thousands?
     
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  12. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Can't pull the trigger you can see the brain working but the body just won't respond.
     
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  13. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    How does that not make it sad to see them go out like that? Maybe if you don't like the boxer.

    Those aren't the type of fights I would watch twice.
     
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  14. herbzg

    herbzg Euro-Level Athlete Full Member

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    this definition should be in the dictionary next to shot fighter
     
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  15. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    It's sad, but it's common.

    No fighter knows when to quit.
     
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