Definition of undisputed champ

If Cotto keeps winning in dominant facion best available (say winner of Margarito-Cintron), than he is. I'm also a big Floyds fan.

 

The undisputed champ first must have 3 belts from the 3 major sanctioning bodies. Then they must obtain the ring magazine title to legitamize the titles.

I think that beating a champion for his title holds more lineage than winning a vacant - even though your winning a belt reguardless.

When you beat a reigning champion that shows that you taken his belt -- when you win a vacant - you just won a belt someone was stripped of or vacated.

The ring magazine belt ... shows no bias and shows that you beat who the public preceives as the top contender or champion. It has more prestige and lineage than any other belt in the history of boxing.

 

Floyd is the universally recognize undisputed champion ... there's more lineage in Floyd's title than any title in the division.

He beat Baldomir, who had beaten the then undisputed champion in Zab Judah. Because of politics and sanctioning fees Baldomir couldn't afford to keep all 3 belts. The IBF (bull****) let Zab keep his title ... Floyd beat him for that title and vacated it. Which in turn gave an opportunity for Cintron to fight Saurez... the WBA belt was also vacated giving Cotto the chance to fight Quintana for it.

When its all broken down all those belts that are floating around in the WW division rightfully belong to Floyd Mayweather.

Cotto would just be fighting for the belts that Baldomir vacated and like I said before Floyd be Baldomir giving him the clout and the right to claim those belts his.

The belt that has the most lineage is the ring magazine belt and thats something that Cotto can't obtain unless he fought Floyd.

So it doesn't matter how many belts Cotto gets he will still not be the recognized WW champion.

 

There was. When he beaten 2 seamingly the best men in the division: lineal champ and former champ who lost in very close fight. But now it's evident that this opposition is worse than Cotto's, whether his title paper or not

 

By the way, Tua never hold a title, but Ruiz did.

 

IMO undisputed champ must win 3 of 4 belts and considered as no1! So if wlad would beat Chag or peter he would be Undisputed to me!

 

What are you talking about ... Who on Cotto's resume would solidify that arguement?

Shane? Hasn't beat anyone significant in 5 years.

Quintana? an up and comer who would get knocked out against PBF.

Judah? Who lost to Floyd before he fought Cotto

Oktay Urkal? A natural LWW like Hatton, who hasn't done anything in the sport and hasn't beat anyone w/ clout.

Come on now man you can't compare those guys to guys who have done something in the sport and hold clout.

Hatton - still universally recognized LWW champion
DLH - who at the time was the WBC SWW champion
Judah- was live when he fought Floyd but after was just a battered shell of his former self.
Baldomir - Beat Judah and took the undisputed championship from him

come one now ... don't go there because you can't come up with a relevant point to counter mine.

Thats the proof ... Cotto is an exciting fighter but to say he's fought someone is ridiculous.

You can't say anyone that Cotto beat could beat Mayweather.

If anything they will get knocked out or blown out in a UD.

 

I was about to ask the same thing:huh

 

Floyd has never been in a close fight ... he's never came close to losing a pro bout.

Cotto has had his back against the wall too many times and before he gets the chance to meet PBF -- he will more likely lose.

 

LOL, why is it that we always seem to get back to this argument? Fitz laying the smackdown!:yep