should be interesting to see how DeGale reacts and comes out after his pro debut slating... Wonder what the initial reaction from the irish crowd will be!!?
Maybe ESB should all pool together and make a degale opponent. Hmmmm Carnage would be good.... lets match him with TFFP, ISHY, Faisal, GPATER and Darni187. Each of his opponents gets 200 euros to look good losing every round maybe take a dive... thats a thousand EURO's manager Hands of Stone has had to pay out. I pay Carnage 100 a fight on the promise that he will recieve a huge payday after his 5th fight so thats a total of 1,500 laid out. Frankie and his sports network homies then offer us £5,000 for a six rounder against their golden boy. But because Carnage is a scruffy **** who hasn't got a pot to **** in we only have to give him 2000 and thats more money then he's ever seen in his life. Carnage lives like Vanilla Ice for the next year or so featuring in eastern european music videos throwing up G signs. The ESB crew carry on helping HOS build up shoddy fighters to get punched the **** out of by ex-amateur stars. HOS gets 1500 Euro plus a nice little brown envelope and the promise of more work very soon. And Sports Network/ Frank Warren/ whoever get a cheaper opponent then any decent domestic fighter probably saving them at least 2-3 grand per opponent. The opponent they get can't fight a cold or the tide in the bath so assured win. Wow us boxing fans will say. Brilliant.
Because it's DeGale's second fight And is it me or is the Georgian domestic scene underrated? It really might just be me, but some of these guys really need to fight elsewhere to see how good they actually are.
OK I'm sure this guy will end up beeing terrible, but come on he can't be worse then the last guy he faced. And to be honest at this moment in time I'm not worried by who he faces as long as he get's some rounds in and looks decent enough. Hopefully he can get 6/7 fights done by the end of the year and hopefully he doesn't come out with stupid comments along the way, he needs to concentrate on racking up the wins and not alienating people along with stupid comments along the way. You're telling me just looking through the ranks of Georgian fighters at box rec, there are 3/4 guys with very good looking records I wonder how good they actually are. Maybe there are some hidden gems.
Just put him in with DECENT guys. Not clowns like these Georgians or wherever it is. Take calculated risks - as Groves has done! People hated Harrison because he was cocky and took on a series of joke opponents. Isn't DeGale doing the same thing? This is where the US really kick our ass.... they actually match guys against opponents capable of boxing, not running, not holding.... actually BOXING. Hence they learn more, and become better fighters! Simple?
My post above lays out exactly how it works. Anyone who thinks otherwise is very mistaken. This is a worrying new direction by the ever canny Warren. At least with Khan, Morris, Hatton etc we got the 'usual suspects' this new move of consitantly importing eurobums is going to really hurt the few 'general fans' left. Bring back the British journeyman before its too late.
Hmmm well he doesnt look too much of a threat as in big fish wise but just from looking at his record, two UD wins over a fighter whose never fought and a fighter whose coming off a 1st fight loss and then 3 tkos over pretty bad opposition minus the last guy who was undefeated in 2 fights..... Degales first fight was a Decision and a very ugly one at that but still Lets wait and see what comes of the gold medal dude
Get rid of Eurobums and most journeymen. If you aren't coming to win, exit stage to the left, please! I hate those pretenders that just keep themselves in shape in the gym, then do an extra 12 minutes on the bike and collect a paycheck for ****all.
I'd prefer a decent class journeyman to these russian types who come to win but have just started boxing in the last 6-8 months. Its ridiculous.
It depends what you call a journeyman. Guys like Karl Taylor and others have gone from being journeymen to being bums.... Buckley was the same IMO. Lee Swaby is a journeyman.... capable of beating guys that aren't up to it. I suppose the disgraceful scoring from most referees doesn't help though - a journeyman can stand a prospect on his head and still lose :verysad
Swaby yes good call.... that type of fighter a handful and lets us know where a fighters at. With these russians they may as well pick someone from the audience.