Delahoya has hurt the sport recently

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by PowerPuncher, Oct 14, 2008.


  1. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I see....so you just don't think the fight is going to be entertaining or fun to watch. If that is the case so be it, but you didn't say that in your original post in which I responded. You asked the question why would you want to watch from a boxing fans perspective and there are many viable reasons why a fan would. But after explaining more thoroughly I now understand why you wouldn't want to watch the fight. I feel differently about how the fight is going to be.....to me a title fight isn't everything...I do like some substance when considering a fight or boxing match to watch but moreso I just want to watch two men going at it forcing their will over the others....what makes this fight intriguing to me is that it's a GREAT small fighter testing himself against a Great Bigger fighter....Youth vs Wisdom, David vs Goliath, Speed vs Power...ect.
     
  2. 555east

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    he's been doing this crap for years man, DLH gets way too much coverage
    you know thee was a countdown show for his TUNE up fight vs Steve Forbes
    i mean enough already, the dudes non stop in the spotlight it's sickening.

    and weather I like or dislike DLH is beside the point, all his interviews and etc speak for themselves.

    he's trying to take the focus off this fight being a mismatch

    and make it seem like a big SuperBowl like boxing event.
     
  3. 555east

    555east Well-Known Member Full Member

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    no I dig that, not every significant title fight has to be for a title, and if the size differential appeals to you, fine by me

    but I bolded what I did specifically as DLH himself said that for him this fight has "all risk no reward" .. kinda like he's almost writing off Pacquiao as a legit threat

    **this fight very well could be entertaining, I will leave that possibility among many as pos. to happen, but I just think style wise Manny will have lots of trouble trying to force his will over such a bigger man .. and that's not even taking into consideration DLH will be the biggest puncher Manny's faced in his career.

    In regards to the David/Goliath match up there is a great deal of truth to it, but I've personally removed myself from the "big Fight DLH BS" and ceased to care a great deal.
     
  4. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You don't have to convince me either way bro...Whether or not you watch the fight will not weigh on my mind one bit as it shouldn't yours if anyone else does decide to watch.

    I was just responding to your post, answering the questions you laid out there. In all honesty it's not that serious. I just feel the fight could be exciting...You have the P4P best in the world in there with a bigger foe who use to be atop the P4P list whom last year took floyd Mayweather the distance in a very closely contested match.

    Live your life however you see fit and don't worry what others think...otherwise you'll always be worrying about **** you can't control. Don't watch the fight.....you may be right...it could be a borefest or uneventful and even if it's not.....you'll be able to catch a replay.:yep ...and this one is for you :lol:
     
  5. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree that DLH gets far too much coverage but if you were in his position you wouldn't be pulling the rug out from beneath your own feet now would you? I know I wouldn't.

    What do you mean by "His interviews speak for themselves"? I think this fight could be a mismatch....logic would point that direction but again....this is a sport where by using "LOGIC" doens't always play out like a simple math equation such as 1+1=2.....In boxing you could very well have 1+1=11 or 3...you get the point....DLH should win b/c he's the bigger guy....just like John Ruiz should have been able to beat James Toney and Roy Jones...Logic would make it seem as an easy and predictable outcome, but in boxing nothing is guaranteed as a sure thing...one punch or one happening can change the DNA of the fight itself. Boxing is very unpredictable which is partly the reason why the sport is one of the oldest and still popular.
     
  6. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I can't see how PAC is a Real threat! I truly can't, but I hope that PAC proves most observers and fans like you wrong....I want to see PAC do what people say he can't and I want to see something great happen that night.....of course I could be in for a very short night b/c DLH just has to land one left hook and PAC will be selpt for sure.....but I'll watch almost any boxing match.....

    if its boring I'll end up turning it off but I always watch whatever is available if I can. I know many who are plain tired of DLH period and I understand.....the Boxing market is flooded with DLH and his fishnets.....but I do respect what he's accomplished in the ring....I don't speak on who he is or what he does outside of it b/c it doesn't really concern me one way or the other.....

    Jack Presscott could give you an ear full to why you are completely correct in not wanting to have anything to do with the golden one....so can Kaygb.....but welll let you know if you missed anything or not the day after....and you could be saving the crazy PPV price of $65. At that point I'll be more than happy to let you gloat!
     
  7. 555east

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    take that :D and this :? and that :nut and then :patsch

    no fair enough the P4P #1 vs DLH very well could turn out to be an exciting bout .. and Manny could even win ... which I'll leave as a possibility

    watching the fight or not, I just see it incredibly lame that as a boxing fan the "biggest fight of the year" is this 147 pound mismatch

    which has even been compared to the SuperBowl of all things (by Schaefer)

    I mean forget the fight itself, but this "Event" we'll call it by how it's talked about and hyped up is clearly turning into well an event.

    and yes Pro Sports are about the $$ but what happened to the biggest fight of the year being about the fight itself?

    not how "global" or "huge" it can be. and that's where IMO DLH loses focus on trying to hype this as an event

    but what ever, I see around it, if others don't and wanna buy it anyway that's just the way it is, your right, I don't need to boycott or really care
    but boxing's really hit a sore spot if it's all about "Event's" from here on out

    and don't be surprised when Hatton/DLH happens.

    which honestly I don't mind as I've been getting more selective with the fights I watch, rather then just watching anything

    **shucks if anything fights like Pac-DLH and DLH-Hatton benefit me cuz I got other fights to look forward to.
     
  8. psychopath

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    Yes! :deal
     
  9. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    HAHAHA! You got me!:rofl I think the fight of the year was and will be Cotto vs Marg! That was a classic! And I won't be surprised if you are right and when and if DLH KO's PAC he'll line up Hatton for his final bout....unless he plans to torment you even more by prolonging his retirement.
     
  10. 555east

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    **I hope im proven wrong, I wouldn't mind that at all actually.

    What do you mean by "His interviews speak for themselves"? I think this fight could be a mismatch....logic would point that direction but again....this is a sport where by using "LOGIC" doens't always play out like a simple math equation such as 1+1=2.....In boxing you could very well have 1+1=11 or 3...you get the point....DLH should win b/c he's the bigger guy....just like John Ruiz should have been able to beat James Toney and Roy Jones...Logic would make it seem as an easy and predictable outcome, but in boxing nothing is guaranteed as a sure thing...one punch or one happening can change the DNA of the fight itself. Boxing is very unpredictable which is partly the reason why the sport is one of the oldest and still popular.[/quote]

    well regarding DLH .. if you saw the ESPN interview with Brian Kenny regarding why he chose Pacquiao .. oscar made himself sound like a moron IMO

    saying stuff like "well Manny called me out, that's why im fighting him" .. i mean called out by a 130 pounder? how ridiculous does that sound?

    and then Brian responds "everyone calls you out Oscar"

    so Oscar switches topics and talks about how "big of an event, great for the sport" it'll be

    he realized how dumb he sounded by taking the challenge of a Natural 130 pounder when Winky and Margarito called him out as well

    and switched topics to say how big and grand the fight with Pacquiao was going to be

    doesn't that kind of speak for itself?

    and oh yeah boxing is a very unpredictable sport, so many variables to consider, making weight, injuries in ring, fight plan, tiring too quickly

    so many variables. and it's certainly not a forgone conclusion as to who will win

    because as we all know, just cuz fighter A can beat fighter B, doesn't mean fighter A can beat fighter C

    completely agree with the last bit, that's why I like boxing, not just the competitive fights, but seeing that rare upset/comeback live

    predicting upsets happen all the time, but actually happening yep.
     
  11. SouthpawSlayer

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  12. 555east

    555east Well-Known Member Full Member

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    well that's good, glad we reached a middle ground where smiley faces are no longer used to incite, lol

    Cotto/Marg still takes the cake for FOTY .. man what a fight

    ahhh why do you torment me DLH, why damnit why!

    he already said he wants to fight on past Pacquiao, so I accepted it

    acceptance is the first step they say, right?
     
  13. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    well regarding DLH .. if you saw the ESPN interview with Brian Kenny regarding why he chose Pacquiao .. oscar made himself sound like a moron IMO

    saying stuff like "well Manny called me out, that's why im fighting him" .. i mean called out by a 130 pounder? how ridiculous does that sound?

    and then Brian responds "everyone calls you out Oscar"

    so Oscar switches topics and talks about how "big of an event, great for the sport" it'll be

    he realized how dumb he sounded by taking the challenge of a Natural 130 pounder when Winky and Margarito called him out as well

    and switched topics to say how big and grand the fight with Pacquiao was going to be

    doesn't that kind of speak for itself?

    and oh yeah boxing is a very unpredictable sport, so many variables to consider, making weight, injuries in ring, fight plan, tiring too quickly

    so many variables. and it's certainly not a forgone conclusion as to who will win

    because as we all know, just cuz fighter A can beat fighter B, doesn't mean fighter A can beat fighter C

    completely agree with the last bit, that's why I like boxing, not just the competitive fights, but seeing that rare upset/comeback live

    predicting upsets happen all the time, but actually happening yep.[/quote]

    :rofl I didn't see that interview but I'm going to find it! Oscar can't really say much about taking the fight aside that there is HUGE money that can line his pockets and many others at the end of the day. But DLH is a politician of the sport....he's about making money now that he is neck deep in the pormotional side of this sport....so it's expected you will hear a bunch of BS and side talk coming from the new "DON KING" of boxing......but with that said I think he'll make some very good fights down the road...I just hope he won't be in any of them before too long.....he does need to retire and give the young blood some of his lime light.
     
  14. charlievint

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    You're alright bro! THere are more meaningful fights comming up that I'll be more into than this one but how else will I fill up my time if I don't watch DLH v PAC! I could **** my wife but what about the other 2 hours!
     
  15. 555east

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    the interview is called "Oscar De la Hoya on Fighting Manny Pacquiao"

    yeah really I'd like boxing to move on as a sport so to speak
    i don't like the whole association it gets with having "just DLH" if you get me
    boxing's really got to try and develop some more big Stars.

    Golden Boy just signed James Kirkland so that's good news