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True the way Arum and his fans go on u would thinks hes DLH. The truth is he was embarrassed the last time he faced a world class fighter.

 

You should have forced yourself, just for pissed off sake.

The "author" of that biased piece of trash used many flattering adjectives to describe AA in there, but only ONE for Pavlik in the whole thing....plodding.:-(

 

I'd think Mr. Bernard Hopkins can be described as something higher than just World Class, surely you can agree?

 

I honeslty did stop reading when I read "quick" in reference to Abraham. Right now, after watching several Abraham fights, and looking at who his opponents fought, there is only one reason I'm still interested in a KP/AA fight. A win over AA would shut people up.

Arthur is easily the most over rated fighter on ESB, and it's spreading out into the rest of the boxing world. Pavlik/Abraham is the current equivalent of Calzaghe/Lacy. The end result will be even worse for Abraham than it was for Lacy.

 

Well I read it, AND it pissed me off into finally posting again.:rofl I'd just been lurking, thinking good ****in' god at all the **** people were sayin'. But after reading that, it was on.:yep

 

I lied? So Pavlik never beat Miranda or Taylor or Taylor in a rematch at a catch weight, BUT I'M SURE YOU'LL RECOGNIZE HIS MOVING UP IN WEIGHT AND LOSING TO HOPKINS, while trying to chase down undefeated Calzaghe... All AA does is run his mouth. As I said, I would take him more seriously if he would move up to 168 and take out a top name there since you're so convinced that ever MW is ducking him... Every boxing fan is pissed that a Pavlik - Abraham fight hasnt come off yet, but at least some of us dont post drivelling **** like you constantly do.

 

I don't think Arum and his people don't want Pavlik to fight Abraham as he'll probably lose.

If they fought, i got Abraham by KO around round 8. The guy has a granite chin and immense power and Pavlik can be hit.

 

After watching AA against Orel the only thing I can ask is "WTF?" Kelly has the reach and the hook to get around that high guard. He also has a high work rate, with meaningful punches, so AA can't wait for him to tire out as he said he did against Orel. The man let Orel put him into the corner and against the ropes FFS. That is suicide against Pavlik. If Kelly controls the range, and he certainly has the ability to do so, AA is never in the fight. He was winging wild punches against a man, though taller, actually had a shorter reach, and missing badly.

 

You're overexaggerating Oral's effectiveness IMO. The offense Oral got was simply due to Abraham letting him do it by covering up. But that's Abraham's game plan. Survey the situation the first 3 rounds or so. But ANYTIME Abraham let his hands go, it was a mismatch. Oral was KD 5 times. It was a mismatch. Abraham can take a shot so he's ok with letting his opponents get in some shots.

Abraham CLEARLY has the advantage in chin, power, and hand speed over Palik.

 

Sir, you have GOT to be shittin' me!:roll:

 

Chin: You going to argue this one?

Power: Abraham has devastating power. Pavlik is more of an accumulation puncher. He doesn't have Abraham's power. You going to argue this?

Hand speed: When Abraham lets his hands go, they are pretty fast. Pavlik's hands are slower.

 

Does the word "opposition" mean any thing to you?

 

Point taken. Agree to disagree.

 

Yes, sir. Kick ass avatar, btw.:yep

 

Yep. Which one faired better against Miranda's punches? Miranda isn't a finisher and AA had home court advantage. Couldn't go to the body without being deducted for a 'low' blow. Pavlik is known for closing the show.

Both put Miranda down multiple times before finishing him. I'd have to go even.

After doing nothing for so long they look faster. Kelly is a tad under rated in hand speed, but he showed against Taylor, he can handle the speed and Abraham isn't as fast as Taylor. He is more 'quick' than speed.