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  1. Joser

    Joser Active Member Full Member

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    I really wish i had money to put into this fight.
     
  2. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Juan Manuel Garcia Reyes is actually Spanish rather than British although, obviously, you'd never guess it from his name....
     
  3. pugilist64

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    :lol::lol::lol:
     
  4. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The scoring of the fight was disgusting. 120-108? Hello?

    Khan is throwing rapid hand punches and everyone goes wild. Those were not scoring punches. You have to put something into those punches. Not just arms.

    Two words. Home decision. Kotelnik was doomed for he does not have the punch to KO Khan.
     
  5. rapidfire

    rapidfire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    120:108 was indeed much to wide for Khan. I think at least Kotelnik should´ve won 2 rounds. But the decision itself was correct. No way Kotelnik has won that fight. He had the cleaner punches on his side off course, but Khan was just too busy to let the judges take the rounds away from him. Khan was just wrong for Kotelnik, as Kotelnik could´nt deal with the speed of him.
     
  6. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Ivo's so upset he managed to go through a whole post about Khan without making some obscure racial reference for no apparant reason :admin
     
  7. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The decision itslef was OK but not the numbers. This is the reason I call it a home decision. It was a competitive fight. It was not one-sided beating as 120:108 or even 118:111 imply. I think that Kotelnik won at least 4 rounds. Even he had won 6, the judges wouldn't have scored those rounds for him. Sky Box Office TV guy Jim Watt had 3 rounds for Kotelnik and he was very bias so that I guess it is quite fair to assume that Kotelnik won at least 4 rounds.

    Yes, Khan spped was quite good but he did not put much into his punches. Those were arm punches mostly. And he literally run on a few occasions. It is a good win for Khan for he is very young but overall not that impressive.
     
  8. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    120-108 is criminal but last time I looked the judge who gave it, Juan Manuel Garcia Reyes, is Spanish not a Brit :deal
     
  9. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :patsch

    Why would I be upset? I said Khan by UD so that my prediction was correct.

    By the way, I have made few posts about Khan even though I have seen all of his fights. I just do not like the hype around him especially after the horrible officiating of the MAB fight. Someone on Sky Countdown for the fight said that Khan had the potential of DLH. That one made me laugh.

    I could not care less about Khan race. It has nothing to do with his boxing. You must be too obssessed with races if you bring it here.
     
  10. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    That's funny because you mention it (and usually in a factually incorrect fashion) suprisingly often. Maybe you'll stop that now?
     
  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I'm as baffled and offended by the 120-108 scorecard as anyone, but don't go to the other extreme in stating that this wasn't a domination or beating. It more or less was, for 10 rounds. Khan finally began to gas and Kotelnik won the last two big (and would have probably caught him in a 15 rounder) after losing 8 rounds very clearly and barely winning 2.
     
  12. mak

    mak Active Member Full Member

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    Are you really quibbling about the scorecards? not the result or even the fact Khan dominated but over just how much he dominated?
    why would you get so riled up over that?
    The way i saw it, those Kotelnik rounds could have gone either way.

    Oh well, some of you obviously have a problem with Khan and are clutching at straws.
     
  13. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It is not funny because I do not mention it so that you have some serious issues. I guess it is your guilty conscience. I think that you should seek some piece of advise on that matter. You sound very obssessive about races. I do not find it normal.

    Now if you do not have anything to say about the fight, STFU and leave the people to express their opinion on the criminal scoring.
     
  14. Ivo

    Ivo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So you say it was a beating for ten rounds?:huh

    Even the guy on Sky gave Kotelnik 3 rounds and he was extremely bias. Hitting forearms and gloves with light and fast punches is not beating or dominating. Check Khan's face after the fight and compare it the one of Kotelnik who according to you was beaten for 10 rounds.

    Khan won in a tough and competitive fight.
     
  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Not a physical beating in the sense that Andriy was badly hurt, but a dominant victory (barring the last two rounds). It wasn't anywhere near Calzaghe-Lacy, as someone compared it to (with poll results that quickly rejected that silly notion), but it was a schooling. Not a tough and competitive fight. Kotelnik, as I said, won only two rounds in the first ten and neither of them were by a wide margin (not nearly as wide as Amir won his eight; even if lots of what he was doing wasn't landing, he was still consistently more effective and absolutely dominated ring generalship but for a few moments). He had only a ghost of a chance and that chance would have been Khan's conditioning giving out. Which it didn't. Almost did, but didn't.